12/03/2019 - Minutes (3) MINUTES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF SALT LAKE CITY
SPECIAL MEETING
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3 , 2019
The Board of Directors of the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) of Salt Lake
City, Utah, met in Special Session on Tuesday, December 3, 2019 in Room
326, Committee Room, City County Building, 451 South State.
In Attendance: Directors Amy Fowler, Chris Wharton, Analia Valdemoros,
James Rogers, and Andrew Johnston.
Absent: Directors Mendenhall and Luke participated electronically.
Staff in Attendance: Cindy Gust-Jenson, Council Executive Director;
Jennifer Bruno, Council Executive Deputy Director; David Litvack,
Mayor' s Deputy Chief of Staff; Rusty Vetter, Deputy City Attorney; Danny
Walz, RDA Chief Operating Officer; Jill Wilkerson-Smith, RDA Deputy Chief
Operating Officer; Katherine Lewis, Senior City Attorney; Kort Utley,
RDA Senior Project Manager; Tammy Hunsaker, RDA Project Manager; Susan
Lundmark, RDA Project Manager; Tracy Tran, RDA Project Manager; Corinne
Piazza, RDA Project Manager; Lehua Weaver, Council Associate Deputy
Director; Benjamin Luedtke, Council Public Policy Analyst; Allison
Rowland, Council Public Policy Analyst; and Cindi Mansell, City Recorder.
Director Fowler presided at and conducted the meeting.
The meeting was called to order at 2 : 10 p.m.
A. 2:11:27 PM GENERAL COMMENTS TO THE BOARD
Matt Mateus said he was a long-time (20 year) resident of the
Central 9th community and Deputy Director of Spy Hop currently under
construction. He addressed neighborhood safety and traffic concerns and
asked the Board to approve the 900 south streetscape improvements . He
discussed the Special Assessment Area (SAA) concept and said it would be
burdensome to property and business owners .
Zachary Moses said he recently became aware of the Utah Theater
being torn down. He suggested construction of housing above the Theater,
similar to what had been done in California. He said he moved his travel
company back to Utah and was always looking to advance tourism. He said
to tear this down would be a travesty and the building should be on the
State or National Historic Register.
Robert Stefanik discussed restoration ideas and said the Utah
Theater was the last 70 mm production house in Utah. He said the previous
year Sundance was looking for this type of facility and if the theater
was restored, there would be Sundance as well as tourism funds coming
in. He said this beautiful building could never be replaced and should
not be torn down.
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Michael Valentine said the "Save the Utah Theater" group had been
working with architects and developers, but the RDA would not let them
into the building because the contract had already been signed. He said
they had pictures of other restored theaters and some in much worse
condition. He provided a letter from the Utah Division of State History
regarding Historic Tax Credits and the Utah Theater. He said they could
apply and receive $10-$12 million in tax credits and these could be used
like an asset to see this theater restored.
Gregory Smith McDonough said he was speaking on behalf of his
grandfather and family in film service . He said he liked to visit
structures that were historically significant and there should be wisdom
instead of expediency when it came to history. He discussed change in
generations relative to the need to understand the loss of vaudeville
and other arts . He urged the Board not to throw away the history of Salt
Lake City as well as information for its future children and
grandchildren.
Casey O'Brien McDonough said there were things he might not know
about the Utah Theater process, but the public just wanted to be
informed. He expressed concern regarding the sale of this property for
the 2010 appraisal and said it should be worth more today ($10-$12
million) . He discussed the artwork value and Tiffany glassworks within
the building which could be worth hundreds if not millions; he said when
comparing tax records with similar constraints, he found a much higher
per square foot property value . He said he had serious issues with the
valuation and assumptions being made and felt this corporate giveaway
was not private and should involve the public.
Karel McDonough said preserving historic places allowed children
and grandchildren to experience the emotion of a previous time .
Mr. Johnson discussed the RDA website and referenced its policies,
mission, general redevelopment goals, facilitation of public gathering
places, and encouraging historical preservation, etc. He said this was
a backdoor deal based on an illegal policy wherein the City agreed to
sell the theater without following Utah State law for property disposal
which required public notice and appeal opportunity. He asked the Board
to listen to constituents and preserve something important.
Pete Ashdown said the entirety of the Biskupski Administration had
been locked in negotiations with LaSalle and Hines . He said informing
the public was not the same as involving the public and implored the
Board not to just give the property to someone who would destroy it or
rely on City or Board financing to restore it. He said the decision
appeared to come down to whether four years of exclusive negotiations
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should be rewarded by giving a downtown property away worth millions to
an entity which was also worth millions . He said there was need to set
the price at public rate and demand market amenities .
Jeff Thompson said it was not fair to taxpayers to just give this
property away and it should at least be sold at fair market value. He
said he was sympathetic to the fate of the theater, and perhaps too much
power had been vested in the Mayor and Council with decisions concerning
historic buildings .
Kimber Pino said as an interior designer, preserving/taking care of
buildings and growth was critical . She said growth should not be at the
expense of buildings that show history and the Utah Theater had history,
design motif, and details that current interior designers would not know
how to replicate .
Myron McDonald said he had been an employee in downtown Salt Lake
City for 15 years . He said he had many opportunities to work in other
areas for more money, but the character and uniqueness kept him downtown.
He said he talked with developers that specialized in historic buildings
whom were blown away that this building was being destroyed. He
referenced the "petition to save Utah Theater" and its 4, 200 and growing
number of signatures . He referenced a 1963 quote and said the City would
one day be judged not by the monuments built, but by those destroyed.
Matt Osmond said he was a history lover but progress and the
building that was proposed to replace the theater, was beautiful . He
said the current condition of the Theater was the fault of everyone;
there was now opportunity to save it and he could not sit by and be quiet
until everything that could be done was done. He said the new development
could be built, just not in this location.
Joel LaSalle said his dad was an actor in Hollywood, he was taught
theater as a child, and shared the theater passion. He said he was asked
by Salt Lake City to get involved in this project. He said he was
passionate about this theater but had gotten involved and educated and
understood it could not be saved. He said saving the theater needed to
happen four decades ago, and this was a meeting to discuss whether to
provide the developer money to make the park better than what they could
have made it . He said they could provide low-income housing and a
landmark to replace this beautiful theater. He said he once wanted to
believe the theater could be saved but reality was the City was unable
to find anyone to do the rehabilitation even if funding was to be found.
He said the developers really were trying to do something for the City.
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Stephanie Smith submitted a written comment card but did not wish
to speak. Her comments included the need to save the historic theater.
She said her grandfather worked in the film industry and today film was
heavily recognized in Utah via the Sundance Film Festival and its
brilliant performing arts community. She said saving the Utah Theater
would only enliven this substantial income and interest, and there were
many ways Salt Lake City could bring in revenue via a restored Utah
Theater to inspire generations to come with its beautiful architecture.
B. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None .
C. REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BUSINESS
#1. 2:43:24 PM Resolution: Utah Theater Redevelopment and Sale
Pricing Terms Follow-up. The Board will receive a follow-up briefing
about the potential redevelopment of the Utah Theater and adjacent retail
property, located at 144-158 South Main Street, and will consider
adopting a resolution approving the sale pricing terms of the property.
View Attachments
Katherine Lewis, Benjamin Luedtke, Danny Walz, and Tammy Hunsaker
briefed the Board with attachments . Mr. Luedtke said the purpose today
was to consider a land write-down in exchange for three required public
benefits, totaling $5 . 7 to $6 . 9 million. He said an appraisal in June
identified the property at $4, 070, 000 and the developers were
contributing $1 . 6 to $2 . 9 million in public benefits beyond the
$4, 000, 000 land write-down that was before the Board for discussion and
approval .
Inquiry was raised regarding parameters of the Redevelopment Agency
versus Administration associated with this proposal . Mr. Walz said under
the RDA Land Disposition Policy as well as the context of separation of
powers, the Mayor (as Executive Director) had the authority to negotiate
for disposition of this property and to stipulate the terms for that
disposition. He said the Disposition Policy provided that if the Agency
were to consider a request for a write-down of the property that exceeded
10% of the fair market value, that request would need to come before the
Board of Directors and would be a legislative function. He said within
parameters of that approval, the Board had the ability to add
contingencies or parameters associated with that write-down. He said
Staff had negotiated the required benefits as well as an associated
value . He said those had been agreed to and laid out and the Board had
the ability to approve or deny the value of those public benefit items .
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Director Wharton inquired if the Board voted not to approve the
write-down, would the sale of the property go through. Mr. Walz said the
agreement was structured so that the sale could still proceed, Heinz
would have the ability to purchase the property at fair-market value,
and then forward a request for land write down in consideration of public
elements the City would require for the property. He said those three
requirements would be recorded with the property.
Director Wharton inquired if the City sold the property at fair
market value, whether the Theater was an asset or a liability (suggest
$5 to $6 million) . Discussion followed comparing the recent purchase of
the Overnighter ($4 million) as well as additional expense for misplaced
tenants and maintenance to lock and secure the facility. Ms . Hunsaker
said on a typical affordable housing project, the City contributions per
affordable housing unit had ranged from $5, 000 to $90, 000 (widely varying
based upon the subsidies included in the project) . She said the RDA would
come in last to provide gap financing. Director Wharton inquired if a
similar Overnighter project could be replicated for $6, 000, 000 . Mr. Walz
said the Board was into the Overnighter approximately $10, 000, 000, and
to do that project downtown would be significantly higher (1 . 5 times the
cost) .
Mr. Walz discussed the value of the mid-block walkway concept and
said it would open access to large City blocks . He said the Master Plan
identified areas where those were desired to provide pedestrian access
to the blocks . He said this block was not called out as one of those
areas but was something the City prioritized and incorporated into as
many developments as possible, and the Agency had historically helped to
fund that in effort to activate pedestrian access and walkability. He
offered comparison to Regent Street and said the goal was to find a
connection all the way through the block to allow access to all property
and existing easements .
Further discussion followed regarding the value of a mid-block
walkway as well as parkway, options for downtown park for land
acquisition, and $9 million in land value . Mr. Walz said Staff would
need almost $10 million in acquisition funds to construct a two-acre
park in the downtown area. Mr. Luedtke said the general cost estimate
was $1 . 3 million per acre to develop a park on top of the purchase price .
Ms . Hunsaker said the mid-block cost value also included above-grade
improvements on top of the land value . She said the affordable housing
write-down was more for Utah Theater because the project would not
attract other traditional affordable housing subsidies that were seen in
other projects .
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Chair Fowler announced that Director Luke and Director Mendenhall
had joined the meeting electronically.
Director Wharton inquired about seismic cost estimates to make the
current Utah Theater safe (pertinent to the public' s frustration due to
lack of transparency) . Mr. Walz discussed the various seismic estimates
between $15-$20 million (differences due to square footage) . He said
those ranges were not necessarily stipulated to be the final numbers and
both the construction and seismic costs would vary depending on the final
project.
Director Rogers said with improvements, what would the property tax
estimate include for Salt Lake City. Mr. Walz said if there were an $80
million assessed value of the Utah Theater property, that could include
a tax increment generation of $600, 000 per year. He said if the Theater
were restored and put in a non-profit use, there would be zero property
tax value. He said those calculations were included in the pro-forma
options for financing. He said calculations included a $40 million bond
that would require annual payments up to $2 . 5 million to support that
bond. Mr. Luedtke clarified that would also consume the entire Central
Business District project area tax generated until expiration in 2040 .
Mr. Walz said if Heinz were to complete the development, an
estimated $100, 000, 000 development would generate $850, 000 in annual tax
increment.
Director Johnston inquired about the assessed value, with Mr. Walz
stating the appraisal was done in June 2019 . He said the appraised value
was done for the land value of the property and was extremely difficult
to provide value for the structure, and it was determined the land value
was $105 per square foot (which equated to $4, 070, 000) . He said that was
the same value attributed to the State Street property for that sale and
lends credence to the established value . Director Johnston discussed the
unique location and difficulty to make valuations with the building;
however, he said the appraisal seemed low and the offset did not seem
quite right. Mr. Walz said the project was proposed as part of the land
write-down in exchange for the public benefits . Ms . Hunsaker said the
RDA would have access to the final design of the project and a committee
would be established to review and ultimately approve the design
(including the uses) .
Director Valdemoros discussed the park being optional versus
required. Mr. Walz said it was not included as required because Heinz
had indicated they were going to build open space as part of the project
as an amenity for both their users and residences . He said the reason it
was included in the agreement as optional was that it provided the
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opportunity to have the conversation with Heinz to determine the desire
to build that park at a higher-level, and ability to discuss a potential
partnership or design.
Ms . Lewis addressed parameters surrounding the RDA Real Property
Disposition Policy. She addressed disposition of real property in State
Law and said Utah Code 10-8-2 contained the requirement that every
municipality identify significant parcels of real property and adopt an
ordinance for disposition of those parcels (City Code 2 . 58 and 2 . 90 had
done so for disposition of City-owned property) . She said the RDA was a
separate legal entity that was specifically excluded from 10-8-2, yet
their policy somewhat mirrored City Code 2 . 58 . She said it identified
significant parcels as well as the write-down process currently being
undertaken. She provided further distinction between the City and RDA
processes .
Director Wharton read a statement thanking everyone for their
concern and involvement . He said he felt a personal connection to the
Utah Theater and the vote today was not whether to save the theater, as
that decision had been made by the Mayor with the advice of her
Administration and prior Administration. He asked RDA Staff to review
the Real Property Disposition Policy to include input and notification
for adjacent property owners and the public thru request-for-proposal or
some other type of competitive process . Director Fowler said the Board
would be looking to have that policy discussion on a future agenda due
to frustration associated with this process .
Director Valdemoros also made a statement about why she would be
voting no on this proposal .
Director Rogers moved and Director Luke seconded to adopt Resolution
R-23-2019 authorizing a full purchase price write-down of real property
located at 144-158 South Main, subject to the additional contingencies :
(1) Confirmation that the developer intends to build green open space in
addition to a midblock walkway as part of the proposed project, and prior
to closing, the developer will provide to the Board detailed plans for
the open space, and proposed costs to (a) construct the open space, (b)
ensure the open space was publicly accessible, and (c) maintain the open
space . Prior to closing, the Board may consider providing incentives to
the developer, or through the City Council, related to the open space ;
(2) 160 Main, LLC be included in the resolution as the additional
developer of the project; and (3) Prior to demolishing the Utah Theater,
the RDA ensures historic elements of the theater are sufficiently
documented through measured drawings , film, photographs , and/or written
data to provide a detailed record to the Board and public of the
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property' s significance, which motion carried, all directors voted aye,
except Directors Johnston and Valdemoros, who voted nay.
#2 . 3:25:57 PM 900 South Streetscape Improvements and Electrical
Undergrounding Follow-up. The Board will receive a follow-up briefing
about potential tools to fund ongoing maintenance expenses for proposed
streetscape improvements and electrical undergrounding on 900 South
Street, and will consider a motion to release contingencies on the
construction funding. View Attachments
Benjamin Luedtke, Danny Walz, and Kort Utley briefed the Board with
attachments . Mr. Luedtke provided background on the project, which
included two components : streetscape improvements and electrical
undergrounding (totaling $7 . 5 million/Board had fully appropriated
funds) . He said the question was how to handle the annual maintenance of
the improvements, which were estimated at $44, 307 and included
landscaping as well as hardscape maintenance, water, and a small
contingency. He said previous designs were significantly higher in their
amount (over $200, 000) , and discussions had included Special Assessment
Area (SAA) where property owners (required 61% or more support) would
fund a portion of all maintenance costs . He said Staff estimated $20 . 69
per linear foot with the average property costing $2, 814 per year to
fully cover the annual maintenance . He said it was not clear if an SAA
process would be successful . Mr. Luedtke reviewed four options for scope
reductions .
Director Fowler said there had already been scope reduction from
what the Board originally reviewed, and the current iteration would not
include snow or trash removal . She said she felt the Board learned a
great deal from this process, including the need to have the maintenance
discussion before increasing community expectation.
Director Johnston expressed concern this group did not get a choice
and the Board was possibly establishing precedence . He inquired if this
same process would be done for other project areas and whether the scope
was consistent . He also expressed concern relative to non-profits and
the desire to retain those in the downtown area. Mr. Walz said that would
be up to Board direction and would depend on whether a project was
community or RDA driven. He said Staff understood the need to update the
budget policy and not consider similar projects until there had been
conversations with the Board on maintenance costs .
Ms . Gust-Jenson said there had been differing views on this concept;
and at some point, Staff would need to return with a draft outline of
where they thought the Board had landed so that in the future, Staff and
the public could know early on. Director Fowler said every project area
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was different and had different needs/abilities . She said an SAA or
General Fund could be the answer in other areas; each was unique and
having a maintenance menu to review and consider would be helpful .
Inquiry was raised regarding a trigger to bring increased
maintenance costs forward as well as thresholds . Mr . Walz said a project
area would have to bring that forward. Mr. Luedtke said Staff would also
have the responsibility to carry forward and remember.
Director Valdemoros moved and Director Johnston seconded to adopt
a motion to accept the plan for the General Fund to provide basic
maintenance to the improvements as currently designed, and release the
contingency on construction funding for the Central 9th Streetscape
improvements; it was the understanding of the Board that future potential
improvements, particularly those involving increased ongoing maintenance
costs, will only be considered if adjacent and/or nearby property owners
agree to participate in the financing of those improvements and
maintenance, which motion carried, all directors voted aye .
#3 . Report and Announcements from the Executive Director. Report
of the Executive Director, including a review of information items,
announcements, and scheduling items. The Board of Directors may give
feedback or policy input.
No discussion held.
#4 . Report and Announcements from RDA Staff. The Board may review
Board information and announcements. The Board may give feedback on any
item related to City business, including but not limited to Scheduling
Items.
#5 . Report of the Chair and Vice Chair.
No discussion held.
D. WRITTEN BRIEFINGS
None .
E. CONSENT
None .
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F. (TENTATIVE) CLOSED SESSION. The Board will consider a motion to
enter into Closed Session, in keeping with Utah Code §52-4-205 for any
allowed purpose .
Item not held.
The meeting adjourned at 3 : 41 p.m.
Redevelopment Agency Chair
Secretary
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December 3, 2019 .
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