01/10/2017 - Work Session - Minutes MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE DINNER MEETING
TUESDAY, JANUARY 10 , 2017
The Mayor and City Council met for a Legislative Dinner Meeting on
Tuesday, January 10, 2017, at 5 : 30 p.m. in the CytyByrd Café in the
City and County Building, 451 South State Street, Salt Lake City.
In Attendance: Council Members Stan Penfold, Charlie Luke, Erin
Mendenhall, Andrew Johnston, Derek Kitchen, and Lisa Adams .
Absent: Councilmember James Rogers
Also In Attendance : David Litvack, Mayor' s Deputy Chief of Staff;
Cindy Gust-Jenson, Council Executive Director; Jennifer Bruno, Council
Executive Deputy Director; Russell Weeks, Council Senior Policy
Analyst; Jan Aramaki, Council Community Facilitator; Dan Weist,
Council Communication Director; Lynn Pace, Mayor' s Senior Advisor of
Intergovernmental Affairs; Jennifer Seelig, Mayor' s Community
Relations Director; Mary Beth Thompson, Finance Director; Lara Fritts,
Economic Development Director; Justin Belliveau, Redevelopment Agency
Chief Administrative Officer; Mike Reberg, Community and Neighborhood
Department Director; Mike Brown, Police Chief; Jeff Bedard, Police
Officer; and Cindi Mansell, City Recorder.
Utah State Representatives : Sandra Hollins, District 23; Legislative
Intern (Representative Hollins) Elaine Navar; Rebecca Chavez-Houck,
District 24; Joel Briscoe, District 25; Legislative Intern
(Representative Briscoe) Carson; Angela Romero, District 26;
Legislative Intern (Representative Romero) Celesta Nagel; Brian King,
District 28; Patrice Arent, District 36; Legislative Intern
(Representative Arent) Christian Mower; Lynn Hemingway, District 40;
and House Minority Legislative Staff Director Jen Jankowski .
Utah State Senators: Luz Escamilla, District 1; Jim Debakis, District
2; Gene Davis, District 3; Jani Iwamoto, District 4; and Todd Weiler,
District 23 .
The meeting was called to order at 6 : 00 p.m. View Agenda
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTION
6:00:38 PM Council Chair Penfold and the Mayor' s Deputy Chief of
Staff David Litvak welcomed those in attendance and thanked them for
their commitment of time and service . Mr. Litvak explained Mayor
Biskupski had a last minute conflict and extended her apologies for
not being in attendance . Introductions were made (including areas of
representation) .
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2017 SALT LAKE CITY STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES
Mr. Litvack and Mr. Pace reviewed the 2017 Salt Lake City
Legislative Issues and encouraged input from those present . Mr. Pace
encouraged officials to call in their license plate number to receive
free parking during the upcoming Legislative Session.
Mr. Pace said Salt Lake City had a unique legislative structure
in that both the Mayor and City Council are well-intentioned, strong-
opinioned, and do not always agree . He said when it comes to
legislative issues, however, these two groups work hard to reach
consensus for Salt Lake City to have one voice on the hill .
FUNDING FOR HOMELESS FACILITIES & SERVICES
HOUSING SET ASIDE IN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREAS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING
6:14:36 PM Mr. Pace said the first three agenda items were related.
He said homelessness was the number one legislative issue and the
dialogue in process continued to change, evolve, and move forward. He
said the second funding tier from the State Legislature was critical
in this process . He said last year, the Legislature was generous in
jump-starting the funding process but this year the City desperately
needed the second tier of funding. He said although funds were built
into the Governor' s budget, many people were anticipating alternative
needs for the funding, and all that had been completed (to this point)
would be wasted unless additional support was received. Mr. Pace said
Mr. Litvak was the City' s point person on homeless issues .
Mr. Litvak explained the Legislature had committed to $27 million
over three years . He said last year, $9 . 25 million was allocated and
the hope was for $9 million this year. He said the Legislature might
see a combined City and County request around operation diversion and
the ability to continue treatment and programming initiated last fall .
He discussed the desire to work together to get individuals (in need
of treatment) into treatment and funding had been committed through
the end of the State fiscal year.
Mr. Pace said he heard about a proposal in RDA legislation to
remove existing funding in the mandatory set aside funds for low-
income housing which would be catastrophic for the City and the
County. He said the funding that comes from redevelopment projects
assists in supplementing emergency shelter and low-income housing. He
said it seemed counter-productive for the State to allocate $9 million
for homeless solutions and then remove low-income housing monies . He
said when RDA legislation came through he would encourage officials to
ensure set aside housing funds did not get removed from the statute.
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He said the argument had been made if local government wanted to
insist, they could negotiate via tax increment agreement . He said the
net effect would be the City and County insisting on housing funds
being set aside although other counties might not (development would
become cheaper in those other counties) , and Salt Lake City and Salt
Lake County could suffer. Mr. Pace said Salt Lake City had retained
lobbyist David Spatafore for work on this issue .
Mr. Pace said the City favored anything that would move the
needle on affordable housing. He said studies had shown that half of
the people in the homeless system were short-term who move in and out
quickly; the other half were chronically homeless or people who need
long-term supportive housing. He said the chronically homeless arena
needed help. He said the City Council made a commitment of City
resources to address the issue but there remains a critical need for
additional funds .
Senator Weiler explained he had been serving on a task force with
Representative Edwards and others on affordable housing and a major
piece of legislation was requesting $9 million in new money. He said
Bruce Cutler had a bill surrounding housing application fees for low-
income people required to apply and pay a $35 fee; they were then
informed there was no space available and lost that fee.
Mr. Pace said in order to make a meaningful difference on what
was seen on the streets today the support of all players was
necessary.
WATERSHED PROTECTION
6:23:59PM Mr. Pace said for decades, cities of the first class have
had extraterritorial jurisdiction to protect watershed and water
quality within the watershed area (such as Salt Lake City with the
Wasatch Canyons) . He said Salt Lake City was proud of what had been
done over the years to preserve the quality and availability of water;
however, there was increasing pressures relative to watershed,
recreation, and development . He said there were others who felt Salt
Lake City and Salt Lake County had control that was unduly restrictive
on development in the canyons . He said dialogue was initiated with the
Quality Growth Commission that would suggest cities of the first class
should have pared back responsibility and shifted it to the County (or
someone else) . He said this entire scenario was not about watershed
protection, but rather being able to develop. Mr. Pace said Salt Lake
City took this seriously and could not afford to jeopardize its clean
drinking water.
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Representative Briscoe said there was surface policy behind the
issues, but there were people who owned land and they wanted to
develop for years . He discussed the property values seen from a real
estate perspective and said the City had resisted appropriately and
needed to continue to fight algae blooms, phosphorite, and overloading
those streams coming down the canyons as a historic source of water.
NORTHWEST QUADRANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
6:27:23PM Mr. Pace said there was no specific legislation, but this
area had generated a great deal of attention relative to the area and
new State Prison. He requested that Salt Lake City be informed about
any proposed legislation which might affect this area. He said Ms .
Fritts was working aggressively on a potential plan for the Northwest
Quadrant as well as the State; the plan was intended to ensure
development went in the correct direction. Inquiry was raised
regarding ownership of the nearby landfill . Mr. Pace stated it was
owned by the LDS Church.
Representative Luz said she filed a bill trying to address
mitigation of potential pollution and air quality impacts that would
happen during the transportation of development materials . She said
she realized those aspects would be difficult to control for those
surrounding communities . She said the bill would not be specific to
the Northwest Quadrant area only but would include West Side Community
Council concerns with what construction would look like for this
development.
SALT LAKE CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT
6:30:36 PM Mr. Pace said although this item was not on the list, he
would add that Salt Lake City would be concerned about any legislation
involving the Salt Lake City International Airport and its
development.
Representative Arent expressed concern regarding taxi regulations
at the Airport, costs, charge limitations inside and outside of the
City, and inquired what could be done to solve the problem.
Mr. Weeks suggested it might be worth exploring contracts with
ground transportation businesses for right to access airport pickup
limits . He said the problem was the question of Salt Lake City
regulating businesses that had business licenses in other cities and
towns . Mr. Litvak said the City would look into the different ground
issues at the Airport.
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CONVENTION CENTER ALCOHOL LICENSES
6:34:09 PM Mr. Pace explained there was expectation for alcohol
legislation this year. He said the City wanted to change to the State
alcohol licensing process and flexibility in connection with events
that would be hosted at the new Eccles Performing Arts Center (in
downtown Salt Lake City) as well as other convention facilities across
the state . Clarification was provided this change was unrelated to the
"Zion Curtain" law.
SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL RENTALS
6:35:43PM Mr. Pace said short-term residential rentals were becoming
an issue in every community. He said the desire was for parity between
licensed hotels/motels and online services . He said there was also
issue with government being able to regulate individuals in their own
home . He said although this was not as big of an issue in Salt Lake
City as other tourist locations, they would be working closely with
the Utah League of Cities & Towns to maintain local control .
Councilmember Mendenhall added that this issue could coincide with
affordable housing in that the units which could be rented would be
held in reserve for short-term stays instead.
INTERNET SALES TAX
6:37:22 PM Mr. Pace said this was an issue of making sure sales tax
owed was collected. He said Amazon was only one player and Senator
Bramble intended to introduce legislation to move forward a uniform
tax and revenue collection between brick and mortar and on-line
locations . He clarified the tax was already owed and legislation would
simply provide for a more efficient collection method.
OPIOID ABUSE
6:38:14 PM Mr. Pace said the City would support legislation relative
to awareness, treatment, and prevention associated with opioid abuse.
IMPACT FEES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
6:39:01PM Mr. Pace said years ago, the Legislature authorized the
use of fire impact fees to acquire fire trucks as an element of
capital assets . He said the City wanted to explore the concept to
acquire assets on the police side .
MISCELLANEOUS
6:39:41 PM Representative Romero said she wanted to see the City add
a legislative priority for mandatory processing of sexual assault
kits .
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Representative Briscoe requested clarification on the homeless
services and his understanding that any request coming from the City
and County would be for services and not for site acquisition or
construction.
Mr. Litvak said the $27 million funding request last year broke
down $20 million for facilities and associated land; $7 million for
housing and programming; $4 million towards operational expenses of
new resource centers; and $3 million for housing. He said the
legislative funding request this year would be a continuation towards
that goal . Inquiry was raised as to whether there could be a scenario
wherein more than $27 million would be requested. Mr. Litvak said when
transitioning from two to four resource centers, additional capital
expenses were anticipated but he did not anticipate asking for
additional funding for homelessness .
Senator Debakis inquired if there was enough detail to know the
costs for the four new resource centers and who would pay for them.
Mr. Litvak said when funding was requested last year, discussion
centered around two facilities for about $2 million each and $l-2
million target for operational expenses . He said Salt Lake County
currently spent $52 million on homeless services and the expectation
was to realign that funding to better fit the new homeless resource
program model . He said Staff continues working on programs, including
operations for all four centers, and contributions by the City and
County. He said the City' s funding and support surrounding
homelessness (police and fire services) would be almost equal to the
County' s $52 million.
Councilmember Penfold said he thought substance abuse treatment
and mental health care costs would be a long-term challenge moving
forward.
Representative Romero said at two of the potential homeless
shelter site meetings, she noticed that the County did not have
representation. She expressed concern that many of the questions being
directed at the City might need to be addressed by the County. She
inquired if Salt Lake County intended to be involved or participate in
upcoming meetings . Mr. Litvak said City Staff was working hard to
ensure the County would be present and they had been responsive in
providing information. He suggested elected officials had the ability
to contact the County directly and express the importance and benefits
relative to involvement from their standpoint.
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OTHER CURRENT LEGISLATIVE ISSUES/MATTERS OF CONCERN
6:47:53PM Mr. Pace invited everyone present to discuss individual
priority issues as well as issues that might affect Salt Lake City.
Senator Weiler said he was involved in a major piece of
litigation and had been involved in two workgroups relative to
juvenile justice . He said data had been collected all over the state
and it appeared geographical location played a key role in whether or
not juvenile offenders were removed from their homes . He discussed the
social aspects associated with removing them from homes (drop outs,
re-offenders, and increased costs) and said the concept was to attempt
to keep the juveniles in the home and consider probation or community
service instead. He said another aspect could be juveniles were not
being offered legal counsel and received probation or fines they are
unable to pay. He said they then returned to court on contempt and
were thrown into juvenile detention. Representative Romero said it was
important to note these were communities of color and there was a
cultural competency component that also needed to be addressed.
Senator Escamilla said she was working on baby watch
intervention, which needed to include a priority component for all
children ages 0-3 with special needs . She further discussed work
involving a veteran cleanup bill, adoption bill, home visitation
programs, focus on wage/gender equality, bullying in schools, and
after-school programs .
Representative Briscoe discussed the request to allow the
Farmer' s Market to run biweekly during the winter. He said several
people around the state had multiple education bills . He discussed the
concept of raising carbon taxes to $5 per capita each year in the
State of Utah. He discussed energy costs, taxes, social justice
issues, and climate change .
Representative Hollins discussed schools for the deaf and blind,
the "school to prison pipeline" to stop children from going into the
system, and data collection to determine what worked. She addressed
legislation titled "ban the box" requesting to the State of Utah that
when someone applies for a position they were not asked about criminal
backgrounds up front or until the interview. She said studies had
shown that a person was more likely to get a job, work harder, and
were generally more loyal . She said she was also working on childhood
trauma legislation involving mental health aspects of children and how
adults develop from childhood impacts .
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Representative Hemingway discussed a livable wage bill and
success shown in Seattle, San Francisco, and other areas relative to
raising minimum wage . He further discussed affordable housing and
minimum wage, stating the first step to remove poverty was to pay
workers so they could stay home and raise their kids versus work 2-3
jobs to make ends meet. He addressed teacher shortages, and said there
were other bills including assistance for new school teachers to
purchase a home and become invested in a community. He also discussed
a diaper changing station bill to mandate location of the units in
both men and women' s bathrooms .
Representative Romero said she would be running legislation to
mandate the processing of all sexual assault kits . She said she was
also working on bills associated with human trafficking, force, fraud,
paid parental leave, and campus confidentiality.
Senator Iwamoto discussed her work associated with governmental
immunity, adjusting the cap to increase medical services over time,
and instream flow for public water suppliers . She discussed a helping
coordinator position to assist in services for seniors that were not
in facilities, as well as ways to get seniors into housing. She
discussed a plastic bag ban and the associated need to change habits
and associated hard costs relative to air and water quality.
Representative Chavez-Houck discussed provisions for removal of
elected officials related to personal health or service, election
legislation, proportional or ranked choice building, service dog
scenarios and legislation associated with not truly being trained for
service, and allowing an individual to bring a divorce court order to
a billing entity to split the before (medical) expenses of minor
children.
Senator Debakis discussed a bill to repeal the Huntsman flat tax
and return the rate to 7% for those making $500, 000 or above. He said
this alone would bring $283, 000, 000 potentially for the education
fund. He discussed water districts and said Utah might be the second
driest state but they top in water consumption. He said there was
disconnect between the tap price and what people use because 500 of
water costs were covered in property taxes . He suggested letting the
market set the price of water and watch people conserve. He said this
program could be subsidized originally, and the highest layer would be
astoundingly expensive and inherently promote conservation. He said
bonding would not be affected and property tax charges for water could
be slowly reduced and removed (with the exception of some water
districts who could not operate in said manner) .
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Representative Arent discussed clean air bills and the critical
need for funding appropriation for new monitors . She further addressed
election bills associated with ensuring a real primary in the next
presidential race, solicitation or use of campaign funds, and family
law for parents with disabilities .
Mr. Pace thanked everyone for attending. He said Staff was
working on a new software tracking system that Mayor Biskupski
utilized at Salt Lake County. He said it allowed both internal and
external legislators and the public to review legislative bills . He
said Staff could also push a position statement at least once a week
to advertise their position on various important/high level bills . He
said that would be difficult to do for all legislation.
The meeting adjourned at 7 : 15 p.m.
COUNCIL CHAIR
CITY RECORDER
This document is not intended to serve as a full transcript as
additional discussion may have been held; please refer to the audio
for the entire content.
This document along with the digital recording constitutes the
official minutes of the Mayor and City Council Legislative Dinner
Meeting held January 10, 2017 .
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