12/14/1983 - Minutes • M ��3
Your Salt Lak City
(ON Parks&R creation
1965 West 500 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84104
Telephone 801-972-6714
Ted L.Wilson,Mayor
John Gust,Director of Parks
GOLF ADVISORY BOARD
December 14 , 1984
Minutes
This was the 33rd meeting of the Golf Advisory Board of Salt Lake City.
The meeting was held at the Bird' s Cafe, 59 East 1700 South.
Those in Attendance: Absent:
Norma Carr, Chairperson Jerry Mika
Larry Leidtke, Vice Chairperson
Jimmy Brown Guests:
Virginia Ferguson
Wayne Hadley Dave Eckhoff
Herman Franks Doug Gilmore
Ione Davis Wally Cooper
Dr. Ed Parker Bill Wright
Scott Gardner Gene Davis
John Gust John Erickson
Mark Ruff George Aposhian
CORRECTION & ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES
The minutes of the October 19 , 1983 meeting were accepted by all board
members present .
FEASIBILITY STUDY ON ALTERNATIVE WATER SYSTEMS -
Scott introduced Dave Eckhoff who turned- the time over to Doug Gilmore
for a presentation of alternative water systems for the golf -courses .
A copy of their report _had been -sent out to the Board members witht-he
previous minutes . - Doug--explained--that the- purpose- of- the - study-was -to- -
examine existing watersystems and obtain possible alternatives to-them-
for irrigation purposes . All of the golf courses , -with the exception
of Mountain Dell, are using culinary water. They determined that
approximately 80% of all golf course acreage is being watered. The
consumption of water as recorded by meters from the Water Department is
averaged at 22 .8 inches per golf course yearly (taken from 1976 - 1982
figures ) . The golf courses receive about 10 inches ofrainfall per-
year, which- makes -a total of -about -32 . 8 inches- of water being applied
to the -courses - in a year.
Jimmy Brown inquired about watering the lawn while it -was raining.
Dave said it doesn' t alter the figures substantially if the water is
shut off. Mark explained that there are new devices that can sensor
rainfall and automatically shut- the sprinklers off. They can also
detect -lack of water and turn on.
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Doug continued explaining that rates over the last 7 years have
increased by 31% . Annually, the cost to irrigate per acre went from
$152 . 00 ( 1976 ) to $212 .00 ( 1982 ) . Obviously, costs will continue to
increase.
Each golf course has at least one source of an alternative for culinary
water. Bonneville: Immigration Creek. Forest Dale: seepage springs .
Glendale: Jordan River, Surplus Canal. Mountain Dell: creek, seep-
age springs . Nibley Park: pond. Rose Park: Jordan River, Salt Lake
' City Waste Water Treatment Plant . Tests would need to be run to deter-
- mine the water quality for two reasons : 1 ) public health, 2 )
chemical/mineral quality for irrigation. There are some concerns with
the State regarding the use of the Jordan River and the Treatment
Plant . About 40% of the flow in the Jordan River is waste from various
treatment plants along the banks of the river.
Dave stated the next phase of the study will be the availability,
quality and employment of the alternative water sources .
FOREST DALE FEASIBILITY STUDY
Bill Wright introduced Gene Davis ( Sugarhouse Community Council ) and
the consultants for the study; Wally Cooper, John Erickson, and George
Aposhians . He explained that there are three alternatives for the
building: 1 ) Use by the City, 2 ) Use by a private institution, or 3 )
Demolition.
George gave a structural evaluation of the building. In examining the
building, he saw no differential settlement of the foundation. The
cracks and sags of the building can be repaired and eliminated. Con-
sidering earthquake and wind hazards , he suggests stripping off the
stucco and applying a plywood diaphram with an exterior finish. This
would not take away from the historical value if you reapply stucco.
Wayne Hadley asked about the comparison of time for rehabilitating or
rebuilding. Wally answered that it is basically about the same time.
George explained the main reason the building has no settlement problem
is due to the footings . There are sandstone foundation about 2 feet
high and 16 inches thick with 2 foot wide concrete footings under the
foundation. The only section of the building, Wally stated, that
cannot be saved is the northeast section.
John Erickson gave ideas on usage of the building after restoration.
He showed preliminary drawings of the building that included a pro
shop, office, repair shop, green fee registar, snack bar, toilet room,
locker room, entry, meeting hall, restaurant, and parking lot. The
parking lot would eliminate the old tennis courts . Wally explained
that with the elimination of the courts , the entrance to the parking
lot and clubhouse could be considerably improved in appearance.
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John Gust said the Parks Department has been thinking of the possi-
bility of vacating Forest Dale and developing a park site and selling
the rest of the land. He questioned if the public would even consider
the possibility. The cost effectiveness would be studied extensively
before it was presented to the public. Costs on selling or repairing
the golf course would be taken into consideration also.
COURSE SIGNS
Scott showed a mahogany wood sign. The company that does these install
and maintains them free of charge with a small portion of the sign
reserved for advertising purposes . The Parks Department and the
company would just have to agree upon the companies doing the adver-
tising. If the signs are damaged by weather or vandalism, the first
three signs will be replaced free, of charge. The next 4-10 signs would
be replaced at half charge.
Larry Leidtke thought we had decided against all advertising in golf
courses . Scott felt that his sign was so nice that it should come
before the Board. Virginia Ferguson had noticed that the signs on the
County courses have sold very few advertising spots . Wayne asked if
they would do one course on a trial basis for a year. John suggested
that Scott ask them and possibly have them attend the next meeting so
the Board could get more details .
OTHER BUSINESS
Wayne asked when score cards would be completed. Scott replied they
would- be ready for Spring.
Ione expressed concerns with audit figures in the golf administration.
John said he and Scott would get something together--for the next
meeting. - Scott said he _would .get with-Ione-Davis -and Wayne- Hadley -
before -the next meeting. -
NEW AGENDA ITEMS
Norma asked Board members for new agenda items for the next meeting:
Feasibility Study, Proposal for Forest Dale (Parks Dept. ) , Course
Signs , Audit Reports .
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The next meeting will be held on February 22, 1984 at 8: 15 a.m. at
the Parks and Recreation Building.
We would like to see everyone there!
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Your Salt Lak City
Parks&Recreation
• 1965 West 500 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84104
Telephone 801-972-6714
Ted L.Wilson,Mayor
John Gust,Director of Parks
GOLF ADVISORY BOARD 11984
AGENDA CJfl CORDER
DATE: February 22 , 1984
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PLACE: Salt Lake City Parks Building
1965 West 500 South
TIME: 8: 15 a.rn«.
8: 15 — 8:20 ACCEPTANCE & CORRECTION OF MINUTES
8 :20 — 8:50 FEASIBILITY STUDY/ALTERNATE WATER SYSTEM
8 :50 — 9: 15 FOREST DALE PLANS
(Parks Department )
9: 15 - 10: 00 FOREST DALE FEASIBILITY STUDY
(Wally Cooper)
10: 00- - 10c10 GOLF- COURSE -SIGNS
10: 10 — 10: 15 AUDIT REPORT EXPLANATION
10: 15 -= 10:25 ' CAPITAL -IMPROVEMENTS -
- What to accomplish -in-upcoming
year:-
- What-was accomplished, completed
and dollar amount last year.
10:25 - 10:30 LADIES ASSOCIATION REQUEST
(Larry Liedtke)
10: 30 — 10:35 = - NEW AGENDA ITEMS -
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Your Salt Lake City
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Parks&Recreation
1965 West 500 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84104
Telephone 801-972-6714
Ted L.Wilson,Mayor
John Gust,Director of Parks
January 19, 1984
APPIZov
FEB _ 1 1984
Honorable Mayor Ted L. Wilson CITY RE,
CPpfR
300 City & County Building
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
Dear Mayor Wilson:
Attached are the Golf Advisory Board Minutes of
December 14, 1983.
I request the minutes be approved in the Mayor's
Executive meeting and filed in the City Recorder's Office.
Sincerely,
-KZA)C74)
John Gust
'Director of Parks
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DATE
MAYOR' S EXECUTIVE ACTION _
approved for the Golf Advisory Board.
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