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01/24/2017 - Work Session - Minutes MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 The City Council met in an Annual Retreat/Workshop on Tuesday, January 24, 2017, at 12 : 55 p.m. at the Chase Mill (Tracy Aviary) , 589 East 1300 South, Salt Lake City. In Attendance: Council Members James Rogers, Stan Penfold, Lisa Adams, Andrew Johnston, Derek Kitchen, Charlie Luke, and Erin Mendenhall . Also In Attendance: Cindy Gust-Jenson, Council Executive Director; David Litvack, Mayor' s Deputy Chief of Staff; Jennifer Bruno, Council Deputy Director; Russell Weeks, Council Senior Policy Analyst; Jan Aramaki, Council Community Facilitator; Dan Weist, Council Communication Director; Molly Farmer, Council Constituent Liaison; Allison Rowland, Council Policy Analyst; Lehua Weaver, Council Associate Deputy Director; Amber McClellan, Council Constituent Liaison; Nick Tarbet, Council Senior Public Policy Analyst; Becky Dangerfield, Council Staff Assistant; Libby Stockstill, Council Constituent Liaison; Brian Fullmer, Council Constituent Liaison; Ben Luedtke, Council Constituent Liaison; Kira Luke, Council Staff Assistant; Priscilla Tuuao, Council Staff Assistant; Brijette Williams, Council Constituent Liaison; Cindy Lou Trishman, Council Staff Assistant; Tracey Fletcher, Council Staff Assistant; Amanda Lau, Council Communications; Kaletta Lynch, Deputy Chief of Staff Executive Assistant; Jenni Buckley, Council Front Office; Robyn Hoggan, Council Front Office; Sydney Conger, Council Intern; Noah Stilling, Council Intern; Margaret Plane, City Attorney; Jeff Bedard, Police Officer; and Cindi Mansell, City Recorder. Others Present: Neil Lindberg, Council Legal Advisor; Brian Wilkinson, Outside Consultant; Daniel Shipp, Researcher/Homeless Advocate; Matthew Piper, Salt Lake Tribune; and Trevor Lindley, Public Utility Consultant and citizen. 12:55:35PM The meeting was called to order. View Agendas 1 . 12:56:10PM Welcome & Introductions Councilmember Penfold welcomed those present and outlined the Council Retreat/Workshop agenda details . Introductions were made. 2 . 1:23:38PM Council Transmittals/Process & Timelines View Attachment Ms . Gust-Jenson discussed the Council agenda process and timelines for transmittals/project initiation and implementation. She highlighted the fundamental purpose to create a clear public record, and the benefit of clarity and written documentation to prevent 17 - 1 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 discussions from being subject to interpretation. She said the separation of powers was relative, and there was Legislative versus Administrative tools to provide for effective collaboration and communication. She continued that each Council Member was unique and offered different perspectives as well as priorities . She said the Retreat assisted Staff in better understanding (individual as well as combined) context in effort to serve the Council in the most effective manner. She said although Staff continually relied on the basic Council tools, resources and options, they continually searched for new aids such as the teachings by Patricia Comarell on absolute facts, common grounds, balancing tests from an elected official standpoint, and documentation of a clear outline of expectations . She said Karen Kendrick had also provided insight on ways to communicate effectively in any situation. Councilmember Penfold discussed the separation of powers (such as working through a planning project or petition scenario) . He said State Law was clear about the process yet there was always question relative to opportunity to participate or attend meetings as an individual citizen or an elected official . He discussed the dangers of being engaged at that level when considering the Council/legislative side of that very process and said there was clear direction not to interfere . He encouraged Council Members to seek guidance through the Council or Attorney' s Office relative to questions in this regard. 3 . 1:38:12PM 2016 Priorities Review View Attachment Councilmember Penfold introduced the 2016 Priority review agenda item. He said the Council was not always able to address all items because of unexpected issues . He discussed the form of government and defined the Council role as it dealt with legislation and policy versus the Administration role of implementation. He said one of his goals for the year was to provide for big picture policy conversations to guide the process . Mr. Luedtke reviewed Council 2016 accomplishments as well as 2017 potential projects . Councilmember Mendenhall addressed the 2017 Citywide Pavement Conditions Survey and said she heard about sensors being planted in roadways to determine conditions versus a scheduled mobile unit review. She said these sensors continually monitor freeze- depth and serve as pothole predictors . She requested information as to whether Council Staff or City Engineering would investigate these embedded options versus the ground rolling. Discussion followed regarding the ability to calculate depreciation in street conditions in between data collection timeframes (i .e . every five years) . 17 - 2 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 Councilmember Mendenhall said the point of the embedded sensors was to provide the ability for Staff to adjust their driving allowances (traffic management/smart streets) based on freeze depth or pot holes, in effort to alleviate or prevent degradation rather than to reflect the current condition. Discussion followed regarding the Transportation Utility Fees (TUF) and implementation by local governments in Utah. Mr. Luedtke explained the cities of Provo and Mapleton were not assessing the TUF for every property (like street lighting in Salt Lake City) . He said there had been back and forth negotiations between what the entity desired and having to remove educational or other entities . Councilmember Luke said removal somewhat defeated the purpose and the attraction was application to all, including those that were considered property tax exempt (43% in SLC) . Mr. Luedtke said although the TUF could still be considered a tool, additional application research was necessary. Inquiry was raised relative to the status of the Administration' s Transportation Infrastructure Funding Task Force meetings . Mr. Luedtke said they had not met during the previous two months and he was unsure as to future scheduled meetings . He said the group left off waiting for the numbers relative to additional funding for sidewalks and how to fill the funding gap was not discussed. Ms . Bruno said even the numbers provided were not assured because the Pavement Conditions Survey data could sway the discussion or funding level need. The Council discussed bonding concepts and applications for roads . Mr. Luedtke said there were options including short-term to fill a gap (10 years) or long-term (30 years) to aggressively tackle the funding gap. Ms . Bruno said one-time bond funding could result in a downfall and would depend on ultimate goals to address the issue . Mr. Weeks addressed 2016 Accomplishments and 2017 Potential Projects relative to homelessness and housing key points . He presented a colored illustration on AffoRDAble Housing, indicating residents from all walks of life were the core fabric of Salt Lake City and the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) was the financial thread to help provide affordable housing for everyone . He said the spectrum on the logo ranged from a homeless person, single parent, new graduate, peace officers, teachers, medical community, young professionals, and artists . He said the median household income in Salt Lake City was $45, 000; per capita income was $28, 000; median home value $273, 600; and median home listing $349, 900 ($249 per square foot) . He said it was important to note the median per capita income was about $2500 17 - 3 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 more in Salt Lake City than statewide. Mr. Weeks said the Council had discussed affordable housing for some time and it was important to point out it did not necessarily mean "low income housing" or even "below poverty housing" (although a great need existed) . The Council discussed the graphics not depicting all the different types of housing needs (other than single family) such as new, young, and start-up families . Discussion followed concerning families seeking housing outside the City when looking for more space or to accommodate more than one or two children. The Council requested to have a second story box for family included in the graph. Ms . Rowland reviewed 2016 Economic Development accomplishments and Potential follow-up actions for 2017 . She discussed the original #1 Economic Development Priority and explained the Council had set previously set goals which came to fruition during 2016 . Councilmember Penfold suggested considering the 2016 priority status and potentially carrying forward (or not) when the Council was considering 2017 priorities . He said Council could consider whether a priority had evolved into an ongoing or active issue, project monitoring (working its way through a system somewhere else) , should be followed differently, policy direction to provide to Administration, and whether or not to carry it forward (whether modified/in what form) . He said the Council could consider what was relevant in economic development from this point forward. Ms . Gust-Jenson said relative to active projects, the Council added use of plastic bags and Critical Communities (broken down into smaller chunks of ongoing collaboration with Administration) . 4 . 2:10:32PM 2017 Priority Selection View Attachment Councilmember Penfold asked for 2017 Priorities from the Council . Councilmember Luke said he wanted to see the Council carry the remaining 2016 priorities forward to 2017 . He said although the Council had accomplished a great deal, much more remained to be done. Councilmember Rogers said he concurred with Councilmember Luke, excluding homelessness . He said he wanted the Administration to reach out to all capital and first-class city mayors to come to an agreement or create a resolution stating each city would handle homeless issues which pertained to them and agree not to relocate the homeless elsewhere . He said he felt that would be a great public relations tool 17 - 4 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 to begin sharing information across the nation to determine what worked to reduce homeless issues . Concern was expressed relative to infrastructure and Google Fiber contractors making a mess and leaving construction sites for long periods of time (leaving the appearance of the City being at fault) . The request was made for Administration to follow-up with Google Fiber in this regard. Councilmember Rogers said Google Fiber stated they actually did not own any site until 1000 of the contractor work was done (permits signed and completed) . Councilmember Adams said the State Legislature needed to encourage larger counties to help provide locations for resource centers to prevent all the homeless from coming to Salt Lake City as the only option for assistance . Councilmember Rogers said by completing the resolution or agreement implicating Cities would not relocate the homeless elsewhere would show the willingness to help each other. Councilmember Penfold said as the Council traveled and explored other cities and services in this regard, one consistent was surprised and concerned each community dealt with issues independently of other communities and each felt they were in it alone . He said he viewed Councilmember Roger' s suggestion as an opportunity to develop a network of sharing and communication with other cities; it could be interesting to consider a broad spectrum of models and how to persuade change at a higher level . Councilmember Mendenhall also suggested asking the National League of Cities (NLC) for assistance . Councilmember Kitchen said he was nominated to the NLC Economic Development Advocacy Group and there was not an advocacy group for homeless although he could see a relationship. Councilmember Johnston recommended a nationwide push for housing on a federal level . Councilmember Mendenhall addressed the 2017 HRC Goals for Council consideration. She said Mr. Weeks provided assistance in translating discussions into draft policy recommendations and action steps . She said this should fall into future work session discussions and the best Council tool was the policy. She said she wanted to tie her opinion with the importance of using contingent appropriations . She said as homeless resource centers were being designed and coming on line, she wanted to create policies to result in success and tie funding along the way to ensure the foundation of success was laid and funding actually achieved policy goals . Councilmember Rogers said the Council could utilize the Outline 17 - 5 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 of Expectations as well as Council Staff and Legal Counsel to ensure it was done correctly. Councilmember Mendenhall said she liked priorities to be items that would not move ahead without momentum. She said she wanted to pitch a State Street Pilot Area, including economic development, infrastructure, housing, concentration of motels/hotels, subsidized affordable housing, and homelessness considerations . She said State Street was an RDA area that had more attention than any other City corridor, and should include design and visioning process in collaboration with other entities, along with consideration of connectivity to other RDA project areas . She said this was a prime area which needed to be tracked for pressures, opportunities, and response in terms of legislation continued investment. Councilmember Penfold said the Council came to consensus on three priorities last year and because of the ability to focus, they were able to make huge accomplishments . He said often there were Council and RDA priorities that did not interconnect and this year they started to do so in a positive way. He suggested restricting and exploring RDA opportunities in more detail to implement policies that were being discussed. Councilmember Rogers discussed existing RDA areas (such as State Street and North Temple) which did not have enough potential to make happen. Councilmember Adams said one measurable was for clean sidewalks and public walkways which she felt was not accomplished and was an item that required specific attention. Councilmember Penfold suggested those might be purely administrative items which were difficult to accomplish and perhaps the Council should ask if they had provided adequate policy foundation and money to make that happen. Councilmember Mendenhall discussed a neighborhood support package concept. She said she wanted to throw parks in the mix within the homeless/housing considerations with a separate focus on the four Homeless Resource Center (HRC) areas to be unique to the communities themselves . She discussed tools and the ability to define support mechanism going into the future . The Council determined to carry forward the following 2016 priorities to 2017: • Homeless/housing • Infrastructure 17 - 6 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 • Economic development Ms . Gust-Jenson said Staff understood the operational path to focus on State Street and discussions about the "how" would come later. 2:34:08 PM Councilmember Penfold requested two-member Council groups conduct break-out sessions to capture ideas to move forward on a particular topic and come up with key policy ideas around the topic. 2:37:04 PM Council Members Luke and Kitchen reported on the Infrastructure priority. Councilmember Kitchen said funding was the biggest issue . He said the Council wanted to explore funding options, and although there was 2012 data, they needed the updated Pavement Management Study/street analysis from Administration to be able to determine the actual funding need. He said funding options could include an RDA Bond Infrastructure package to free up resources to deploy back into the General Fund for neighborhoods . He said this could be pitched as both an economic development initiative when working within existing RDA project areas as well as considering needs such as 400 West street reconstruction, burying utility lines, or any number of items . He said even a General Obligation Bond may be worth exploring. Councilmember Luke said although overall cost estimates were necessary, another conversation might be regarding the tax exempt properties in Salt Lake City (430) . He said consideration could be given to the amount of impact on private property owners (as well as commercial and non-profits) to be able to consider more of a package deal all together. He said the advantage of doing a bond of some capacity was the protection that funds must be expended the way the bond was structured. He discussed the critical need to communicate effectively with the public about the need for infrastructure funding. Councilmember Kitchen said the priority all came back to funding. He further suggested the concept of tying prison sales tax to some sort of infrastructure bonding. The Council discussed how to make infrastructure sustainable in some capacity. Ms . Bruno said there were different mechanisms that could be utilized together (i .e . bonds, utility fee, different kinds of user fees) . She said the amount would determine which options could be utilized and sustainability was important so a number of different funding tools would help. Councilmember Mendenhall suggested a revenue source from the 17 - 7 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 Northwest Quadrant opportunity. She said it was important to correlate and implement the forthcoming Transit Master Plan to ensure better public success . Councilmember Penfold said he liked the idea of a mixed approach or shorter-term bonds to return to voters frequently. He said he liked the concept of tying together Proposition 1 for roads or transit approach but additional buses on corridors would create additional maintenance needs . 2:48:25 PM Council Members Mendenhall and Rogers reported on the Homeless/Housing priority. Councilmember Mendenhall suggested policy around geographic equity as there was need by the HRC communities to quickly start to develop support plans and resources . She said there could be a budget request to Administration while the Council worked on policy. She said there should be discussion regarding the concept of inclusionary zoning outside of a housing proposal, perhaps in a Transit Station Area (TSA) or new project area. Councilmember Rogers said micro-housing created opportunity for mixed-use development, could be incorporated with building, provide opportunity for affordable housing units, and could also meet economic development discussions for opportunities in street median or other areas . He said zoning did not exist for this use but the creation could be an additional tool for homeless and affordable housing. Councilmember Mendenhall said there could be overlap with street median micro-housing, potential bonding ideas surrounding street upgrading, investment, or greenery areas . Councilmember Rogers said Accessory Dwelling Units (ADU) could be an affordable housing tool . He said success was contingent upon housing coming on line and the Council needed to make sure they were rolling the balls, considering zoning, budget, and policy. He said perhaps the savings in renewable energy from these buildings could offset the shortage of affordable units . He said Salt Lake City was short 7500 units and would not reach a goal until one was set. The Council discussed a potential commitment to 7500 units . Councilmember Rogers said there were many ways to reach that goal, such as fact finding to determine what other cities were doing. Councilmember Mendenhall said the groundwork was laid in the housing discussions already conducted; there were already partners at the table . She discussed the State Street rejuvenation potential 17 - 8 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 around housing and homelessness . She outlined a scenario where an RDA Plan said there were too many motels, and one acquisition or demolition did not ensure the demographics were appropriately served. She said there was need for policy to ensure recognition of those being served and building that into the future capacity of affordable housing investment. Councilmember Rogers said there were so many opportunities when starting from the ground up and considering all encompassing incorporation of economic development and infrastructure. He suggested soliciting ideas from the RDA Staff for a field trip to look at other cities that had housing challenges . Councilmember Adams said she had interest in having the speaker from Berkley come and discuss the "missing middle" to keep from falling into homelessness . Councilmember Mendenhall discussed the neighborhood and parks support package idea. She said it entailed prioritization of Capital Improvement Applications for the HRC areas and said there were many programs already in place that could be focused on specific areas with slight changes . She said it was a matter of funding and the ability to tie funding contingent upon fulfillment of goals . Councilmember Rogers suggested requesting the State fund more affordable housing across the board. Councilmember Mendenhall said there was the need to define numbers for each HRC now; otherwise, conversations were piecemeal and not clear. She said there might be multiple housing units lined up to be built and yet conversations had yet to be initiated. Councilmember Penfold said the Council could make a request to Administration to see how they were interfacing with projects coming on line and looking at affordability opportunities, and especially when projects were coming to the City with funding requests . Councilmember Mendenhall said there was need for policy to ensure that type of conversation happened with each one of those and tracking would be required to determine need. She said there was also the need for a Neighborhood Oversight Committee policy. Councilmember Rogers said every time consideration was given to economic development or infrastructure, it could totally relate back to housing. He said consideration should be given to developer responsibilities and how that could potentially tie to economic development or infrastructure . Councilmember Mendenhall said a Conditional Use Permit seemed like an opportunity to build capacity right into the ordinance . She said there were so many items to execute 17 - 9 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 that were presented in the Housing and Neighborhood Development (HAND) general fact-finding presentation. Councilmember Kitchen suggested considering something that packaged housing with economic development creatively (such as innovative building materials and prefab) and potential to engage with educational institutions to create a smaller industry. He said after land acquisition, the biggest expense was construction costs and materials . He suggested cutting costs through innovation and partnerships and discussed ideas around engaging other partners within the community. 3:01:33 PM Council Members Johnston and Adams reported on the Economic Development priority. Councilmember Johnston said a great deal of work was done relative to economic development . He said obstacles could be the Building Services audit and perhaps there could be consideration of the City Code/Ordinances, and tracking what businesses were currently requesting right now to understand what the Economic Development Department needed regarding funding and metrics . He said there were many items in the report, lots of targets and goals . He discussed tax base tied to job creation, opportunities associated with small business growth, nodes, walkability, measuring growth and self- improvement, and incentivizing back into the system (understand the investment and the result) . Councilmember Adams said it was tricky not to end up asking for Administrative items and keeping to policy. She said they realized the plans that came from Economic Development (and others) need to contain key/specific measurables . Councilmember Kitchen suggested more focus on RDA (Northwest Quadrant and other) project areas . He said he wanted to drive additional RDA project areas surrounding the HRC locations and neighboring nodes . Councilmember Adams suggested it could be an RDA priority. Discussion followed regarding the ongoing work associated with separation of powers and work to be done finalizing the budget. Councilmember Johnston said agreed upon metrics between the City Council and the RDA which would render policy decisions easier to make when they were aligned (and the same with RDA and Economic Development) . Councilmember Mendenhall discussed her desire for specific items 17 - 10 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 to advance . She discussed the 3rd West corridor area and lack of funding and infrastructure for this high tax producing area. She said there was opportunity, land, and yet no talk about economic development momentum in the area. Discussion followed regarding metrics associated with income-generating areas, location of tax base, money, jobs, how to best reinvest in those areas, and ways to evaluate and put funding back into the specific area. Councilmember Rogers said there was need for metrics associated with job retention and businesses that remain in Salt Lake City. Discussion followed regarding separation from the City Department of Economic Development and other entities and the need to research and be educated on their areas of focus . Councilmember Rogers said there was only one downtown car dealership and inquired if Staff had ever reached out to them to inquire about goals . He said there were so many similar opportunities however, the Council did not know what had or had not been completed. Councilmember Kitchen said the proposed State Street project area ended one block east of High Avenue . He said that area enjoys an enormous abundance of historic building stock and he suggested quickly reorienting the project area boundary to include those areas . Councilmember Penfold said he loved the concept of a matrix entailing ideas for tax base and job creation as evaluation components for economic development. He said to him, the extension was sustainability and it was difficult generating revenue back into the City if the only metric was job creation. He said there was need to attach value and determine what job creation brought (sales tax or something else) . He said it generally was not housing because what he traditionally saw was people who ended up buying housing elsewhere. He said there was disconnect between bringing in jobs and revenue to sustain the support needed to provide for those jobs . He said he wanted to see specifics/evaluations for retainability in the Northwest Quadrant area. He inquired if the job creation was for people who lived in the City; if there was mixed opportunity to provide jobs for those who lived in the City; and yet not evaluating the creation of jobs for people who wanted to commute . He said the City still supported commuters relative to Police, Fire, Infrastructure, air quality, and transportation for the sake of economic development and not generating a return for the City. He said there was need to prioritize the people who lived and worked in SLC versus those who did not. He said the most immediate barrier was lack of affordable housing for the workforce so how would the Council determine where to invest to spur economic development. 17 - 11 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 Ms . Gust-Jenson said when talking about economic development, if there were already analyses specializing in a particular area it was optimal not to do that same analysis . She discussed the benefits of looking at the RDA and City holistically and not from a silo perspective . She said it was possible to make City and RDA goals which were different and asked the Council to think about what Staff was doing in terms of RDA and if it was appropriate to merge those kinds of analysis and consider the RDA as a tool . She said at one point, a previous Council talked about a study on development costs (which cost and who pays) and what kind of jobs created were desirable. She said it would be technical and involve a potential professional partnership as a tool (if such did not already exist) . She said it could be an interesting conversation with Natalie Gochnour. Councilmember Mendenhall said Harvard Business School had information for cities as to how they could fill that missing middle gap and tracing the trickle back to job training, connecting existing businesses from box to technical with universities, and job training in areas . She said creating a matrix was one of the tools and suggested this resource to review and determine if they had already drafted ideas specifically for cities . Councilmember Penfold thanked the Council for the information collected. He said it helped identify policy issues, and now there was need to move forward in scheduling conversations and briefings specific to those priorities . He said he wanted to see information sent to City Administration by the end of February outlining Council priorities for budget consideration. Councilmember Mendenhall expressed concern that she did not want to see the State Street Project Area incorporated into the overall homeless/housing priority. 5 . 3:23:09PM Further discussion & detail about 2017 priorities Additional discussion was held relative to Legislative Policy and Administration Implementation; how to communicate key information; Council policy direction; preferences back to Administration; and ways to move forward with things captured from these three priorities (or additional Council items) . Councilmember Johnston said the affordable housing/permit process was not conducive to easy flow. He said housing was a hot market right now and the City could attract people who wanted to live here because downtown provided cultural, arts, and entertainment experience . He 17 - 12 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 said that was the good piece about retaining affordable yet desirable places to live . Discussion followed regarding how much to invest in the arts, more cultural/less affordable or vice versa. Councilmember Penfold said the livability agenda had been an overriding theme in previous years but he hesitated to add another goal . Councilmember Johnston said it could be a budgetary goal . Inquiry was raised as to whether such could incorporate parks and amenities items as suggested by Councilmember Mendenhall relative to the Critical Communities concept . Discussion followed regarding better awareness of all existing pressures and amenities on any given community, whether any area in the City was different from another, not just data tracking but responsiveness in the form of budget, policy, and area changes . Councilmember Mendenhall said State Street was a rapidly changing area and the Council' s job was to better these processes via legislative tools and budget. Councilmember Penfold said the tool was tracking data, which was more administrative . The Council said discussions to have in the future regarding homelessness included: how to legislate public spaces, camping, loitering, public presence, areas involving public sidewalks, parks, streets, right to congregate, and problems that arise . Councilmember Penfold asked how the City Council and RDA priorities should mesh together. Councilmember Mendenhall expressed concern about putting budget towards programs that exist but were going nowhere . She discussed various community areas and suggested focus on the people and areas that wanted to be engaged. The Council discussed whether a housing/neighborhood support package or neighborhood reinvestment strategies could be a subset of the three priorities . Discussion followed regarding potential formation of a HRC or State Street pilot/learning project template that could be replicated throughout other areas of the City. Councilmember Mendenhall said two budgets ago, the Council increased funding for police officers . She said crime could not be decreased by increasing police numbers because there was need to include the community engagement component . She said this was apparent even more when considering the HRC' s flanking of the critical areas of State Street . She said it was a huge arterial through the City and more than transportation when considering the human element. Councilmember Penfold said there had been similar conversations surrounding focus on social workers within the police department and associated affects with the homeless issues . 17 - 13 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 Ms . Bruno said Staff could assist in determining exactly what such a model would look like, but the Council could communicate to Administration the upcoming budget focus to include the general topic of HRC neighborhood mitigation as well as the State Street corridor. She suggested requesting each department highlight the area within their respective budget (which might already be included by some) , the need to recognize existing issues, consider overlay, upcoming activities, and possibly trigger the Council policy budget role. Councilmember Penfold suggested going forward, the Council conduct additional conversations about each of these. He said Staff had identified administrative versus policy but there was need to refine that information. He said the Council would have opportunity for discussion in February, with the goal to provide communication to Administration by March in time for budget consideration. He said he hoped they would all make a concerted effort to address these priorities in the upcoming budget conversations as well as department presentations . He said the Council and RDA leadership were committed to monthly meetings and discussions regarding alignment of Council and RDA priorities . Councilmember Mendenhall inquired how to pitch State Street to be an active project. Councilmember Johnston discussed both unique areas of North temple and State Street, and the need to provide for change or movement in an effective manner. He said he wanted to see discussions relative to metrics, changes to see improvements, and how to make that happen. Further discussion followed entailing area issues for consideration such as motels and housing, funding, partners, and State momentum for affordable housing. Councilmember Penfold said Staff would explore options . Ms . Bruno said the North Temple Project Area Plan had been adopted for a couple of years . She suggested the RDA policy body could review the State Street area with the Council priority lens and consider any lessons learned from the North Temple Project Area; that area could even be amended if additional opportunities were discovered. Councilmember Mendenhall said she wanted to ensure First South was included. Discussion followed regarding a potential geographic subset of priorities, methods to determine metrics, and how best to judge benefit to the area. Councilmember Penfold said traditionally, RDA evaluation was tax increment. He said it was not sufficient going forward to evaluate the success of an area; other criteria needed to be tied to those strategic plans to leverage funding. 17 - 14 MINUTES OF THE SALT LAKE CITY COUNCIL ANNUAL RETREAT/WORKSHOP TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 , 2017 Ms . Gust-Jenson said she envisioned a broad lens review of the effects of State Street and North Temple along with the desire to maximize every opportunity available with all City resources surrounding the HRC locations . Councilmember Penfold suggested the HRC areas could be a pilot to these other two areas . Ms . Gust-Jenson said the Council could request ideas from City Departments to partner in those areas . Ms . Bruno said a cursory level review from all departments was included in project area plans but perhaps not with HRC considerations . She suggested a deeper department review/different recommendations for inclusion in the project area plan. Councilmember Luke inquired how to communicate to the neighborhood regarding a potential North temple (or other pilot) project area. He said the Council heard the neighborhoods were not happy (and do not want more) every time they approved an affordable housing project . He said in order for this to truly be a pilot project, the Council would need to consider affordable housing, public noticing and neighborhood involvement to ensure articulation and understanding as to "why" . The Council discussed the significance of including an educational component to alleviate confusion between affordable and low-income housing (and the need for better definition between the two) . The meeting adjourned at 4 : 44 p.m. COUNCIL CHAIR CITY RECORDER This document is not intended to serve as a full transcript as additional discussion may have been held; please refer to the audio for the entire content. This document along with the digital recording constitute the official minutes of the City Council Retreat Workshop meeting held January 24, 2017 . clm 17 - 15