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04/19/2021 - Minutes (2) SALT LAKE CITY BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE Minutes of the April 19, 2021 Meeting BAC Members Present for this meeting were Daniel Houpt, David Parrott, Josalyn Bates, Joshua Poppel, Martin Cuma, Rachel Manko, Stewart Soleman. BAC Members Absent for this meeting were Gabriela Knudson, and Jacquelyn Thiel. Also present were Amy Lyons, Lara Handwerker, Julianne Sabula, Greg Sanchez, Patrick Casey, Benjamin Wood, and Dave Iltis. The meeting was held electronically via WebEx and was called to order at 5:04 p.m.by David Parrott. David welcomed everyone and everyone introduced themselves. Approval of Minutes —Motion: Josalyn Bates moved to approve the minutes of the April 19, 2021 meeting. Martin Cuma seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Public Comment Dave Iltis said the plan for 100 South is clearly violating the Complete Streets ordinance. The plan is unsafe, doesn't do much in the way of reducing speeds and is such that it will preclude ever having bike lanes in the future. In his view, the Committee needs to step up and ask the City to revisit their plans. He has e-mailed and talked with Jon Larsen who said he asked the engineers if it was possible to install bike lanes and they told him it was not, but they are changing in terms of how they are approaching the project. Several subsequent e-mails to Jon asking to see the plans, to put in substandard 41/2 foot lanes rather than 5-foot lanes and to install safety lanes so there would be two 10- foot travel lanes in each direction were not responded to. The City is talking about putting a 12-foot median strip between 1000 East and 1100 East by the SL Regional Hospital which will preclude ever having more bike lanes on this stretch because the median strip is too wide. The biggest problem with their design is that they are having a io-foot inside lane, so closest to the center of the road followed by a 12-foot outside lane which will do nothing to slow down the high speed of drivers on too South. They are also talking about putting in pedestrian bulb outs and this median strip but with a 12- foot travel lane you get people driving at 6omph on 10o South. The excuse is that the Complete Streets ordinance doesn't need to be followed because of the cost to remove parking. Their design did not consider the 2 1/2 foot gutter width which they've used for bike lanes on 130o East,yet they are refusing to take that into account for the width of the road on too South. It is a failed design and too South in that area is mostly a residential street, there are a lot of apartments and houses and as far as I can tell, they are not looking at reducing the speed limit. They could probably make bike lanes substandard, make 41/2 foot bike lanes work by maybe removing 1-2 parking places most likely between 110o and 1200 East and everywhere else there would be little problem with that. If they refuse to do bike lanes, at the very least, they could stripe 10- foot lanes with a safety lane which at least gives cyclists somewhere to go to not interact with high-speed cars. They are refusing to do a road diet here because of the claim that Page 1 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes you need two lanes in each direction because of the University hospitals and while I don't buy that, even granting that, there should be room for bike lanes. It makes me extremely upset and I don't believe the residents of the street understand what is about to happen which is essentially no change at all. What can BAC do about this is the question? Lara said she doesn't know much about this project, but they can't act on something that wasn't on the agenda. She said they are free to contact the City with their individual comments and she is happy to put this on the next agenda if they would like. David Parrott said it shows that this project has started or is going to begin on June 14th so they can take Lara's advice and as individuals, follow Dave's lead if they so choose and e-mail the City. He said they can't take official action until it's on an agenda, but it might be too late by then. Martin rides that road and was unaware of this so he's questioning the public process. In either case, he shares Dave Iltis' concern and feels it is an ill-advised solution and while he doesn't think there is a need for a downhill bike lane, he would like to see one going up and if not a bike lane, at least a parking lane on the upside. He feels that would be a reasonable compromise. He would like to see if they can have someone from Engineering next month. Lara suggested they reach out to the project line as she doesn't know much about this project or the level of flexibility. Martin said the design isn't very different than what it was in the past,but it isn't very good. David Parrott said he feels like at this point they will have to be vigilantes and do personal comments as if they wait until next month, it will be too late. He said they can, as a Committee, express their disdain for not being involved in these types of projects and when the City is investing in substantial infrastructure, that they should talk to them first. They could say if the City is going to make these substantial changes, especially on routes that lead to the U of U, BAC is taking a firmer approach as the cycling arm of the TAB and insist the City talks to them before they do public comment. Greg said through his involvement with TAB, he has a question about the 3Oo North bridge. He wants to know the BAC view on an elevator as the bicycle way of getting over the bridge. David P. said he's seen the design and appreciates that there is going to be something there because in that part of town,you can't get over the bridge and you are kind of stranded so it's a step in the right direction. Dave Iltis said it's similar to the Legacy Bridge at the U of U,but you can't go both ways. Martin said he doesn't like the Legacy Bridge so in his mind, it's a waste of time. He's not thrilled by the design but maybe they chose it because of space. Lara will have someone present to BAC on this project. David P. said he believes that design is final but maybe they can have someone come in and justify their design on 1O0 South. Dave Iltis said it is his understanding that the elevator is being done due to a lack of funding. Martin wonders why if funding is an issue, they didn't do a concrete platform rather than an elevator. Committee Announcements &Updates Martin sent a list of comments to Lara but said they can address them in the future. BAC Hybrid Meeting Discussion &Statement BAC Members David P. said TAB discussed this and determined it was more convenient for them to meet electronically for now. He would like to see everyone in person again but still feels it is slightly unsafe. After some discussion, BAC decided to continue meeting electronically in the short term and assess their ability to do a hybrid or in person meeting in the future. Page 2 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes Motion: Josalyn motioned to continue meeting online in the short term and then assess their ability to do a hybrid meeting or in person meeting in the future based on whether there is a surge in Covid. Martin seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Various Construction Updates Lara Handwerker, SLC Transportation Lara said Highland Drive will be rebuilt in 2023 with some major changes but for now, there will be some parking removed and some places where the road will go from four lanes to three lanes with a bike lane on the southbound side of the street. There have been some issues with people parking in the bike lane where there was previously parking so the City will be putting up some signs. Later in the summer, flexible delineators will be put up on the section of Parley's Trail between Sugarmont and Wilmington on Highland. The striping will happen later this week. Josalyn asked why they don't use the green paint since it is very effective, and Lara said she isn't sure but will check into that and see if it is something BAC should push for. She said the 900 South construction from 30o West to West Temple will begin on July 6th. The second phase of the project which is from 90o West to 30o West and West Temple to Lincoln Street is ready for public review and the project team will begin public engagement this week. Martin said it would be good to have someone come to BAC and show the designs when they are ready. He said I-8o reconstruction is happening on the east side between 130o East and Parley's. He would like to keep an eye on when UDOT is replacing the bridges at 1700 East and 2000 East regarding what the bicycle infrastructure is going to be, and he would like to see a sound barrier between the freeway and Parley's Trail in that area because it is very unpleasant to bicycle there with all the freeway noise. Dave Iltis said that from what he knows of this project so far, he believes there will be bicycle and pedestrian accommodations. He would also encourage Lynn Jacobs to come to BAC and present on the entire Highland Drive project. Martin agreed and would like a presentation on the Sugar House active transportation projects. Dave Iltis said 900 South by the zoo is going to be reconstructed soon and Tom Millar has been working on that. There is a plan to expand the bike lane to make it wider both ways and a potential trail going through to the west end of This is the Place Monument. This would connect Sunnyside and 90o South just below the zoo and just to the west of Research Park and is something the Research Park commuter's group has wanted for a while. He said there is also going to be a redesign of the intersection of Foothill and Sunnyside and possibly some signage that might go into the canyon. Livable Streets Update &Discussion Lara Handwerker, SLC Transportation Lara said the City is revisiting traffic calming throughout the city and that the City Council has given Transportation funding to develop a plan for future implementation and to try to figure out how to approach it from a citywide perspective rather than a street-by-street approach. They are calling it Livable Streets rather than Traffic Calming because they're taking a broad view of all the various factors that can contribute to livability, what can increase quality of life beyond just slowing traffic. There is currently a live survey with 4 questions, and she encourages everyone to participate. She is particularly interested to know if the BAC members would rather see lower cost interventions around as much of the city as possible or, more permanent, more durable infrastructure throughout the city in fewer areas. Martin said he would like to wait and see what the City comes up with as far as different designs and then get involved. Lara Page 3 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes said they have communicated to City Council that lowering the speed limit is the best thing to do but changing the design of the streets will be the most effective. She encouraged everyone to take the online survey and reach out to her with any questions or comments. BAC Chair Election Lara Handwerker, SLC Transportation David Parrott said this isn't a typical point where BAC would have elections; however, since their former Chair is no longer on the Committee, they need to do it now. The Chair elected today will serve until March 2022 at which time the BAC will have their regular elections for both Chair and Vice-Chair. Each member present was asked if they were willing to serve and Lara let the members know that they can nominate themselves. David encouraged everyone to cycle through the Chair and Vice-Chair positions for the experience. Motion: Joshua motioned for Martin to serve as the new Chair. Josalyn seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. BAC WebEx Meeting Chat from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:13 PM https://www.slc.gov/mystreet/2019/07/29/100south/ from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 5:19 PM Project Email: 100south@slcgov.com Project Hotline: 801-420-3114 from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:19 PM There is no parking lane currently. from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 5:19 PM https://www.slc.gov/mystreet/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2021/01/2021-100-South-stm- cross-sections.pdf from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:19 PM THere is a parking area planned, but no lane markings or parking area stripe. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:20 PM And those cross sections preclude any bike lanes ever. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:21 PM There is no car park lane striped. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:21 PM 12' outside lanes will result in high speeds from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:21 PM No, they can easily make. a few changes to fix this. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:22 PM Narrowing the median and changing the lane striping is all that's needed. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:22 PM This is not hard. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:22 PM They never came to the committee. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:23 PM And avoid the Complete Streets Ordinance as an outcome. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:23 PM Yes, please speak out as a committee. Page 4 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:23 PM Narrowing the median and changing the lane striping is all that's needed. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:23 PM It's not too late. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:24 PM Construction won't be done until November from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:24 PM There's plenty of time. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:25 PM https://www.cyclingutah.com/advocacy/advocacy-alert-salt-lake-city-looks-set-to-violate- the-complete-streets-ordinance-on-100-south-again/ from Sabula, Julianne to everyone: 5:25 PM It's more challenging to keep up these days because there are far more projects than there used to be. All projects are on https://www.slc.gov/mystreet/. There is a clickable map and you can view what phase the project is in (planning, design, construction). from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:26 PM 300 N bridge - there's a lack of funding and political will to make it fully rideable. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:27 PM Madison Wisconsin makes all of it's bridges rideable. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:28 PM Look at the Legacy bridge - it's kind of a joke. from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:28 PM https://www.slc.gov/transportation/2020/06/21/300-north-bridge/ from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:29 PM This is Tom Millar's project from GSanchez to everyone: 5:30 PM Thanks for your feedback! from Sabula, Julianne to everyone: 5:31 PM Construction costs have been coming in extremely high, so most of our projects are currently underfunded. It's materials (supply chains) and labor. from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 5:35 PM Suggested language: An electronic meeting of the Public Utilities Advisory Committee may be held in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act. from Sabula, Julianne to everyone: 5:38 PM We have been discussing the procurement of equipment that would better support hybrid meetings. Will keep everyone posted as that evolves. from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 5:42 PM Whatever rule you adopt in this meeting can be changed in the future, too. from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:56 PM This year's projects are at https://www.slc.gov/mystreet/2021/01/14/projects/ from Patrick Casey to everyone: 5:59 PM 900 or 800? from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:59 PM Sunnyside Ave from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:59 PM Foothill to Emigration Cyn. from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 6:02 PM https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-studies/livable-streets/ from Dave Iltis to everyone: 6:05 PM Page 5 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes Look at NYC - they have put in a ton of parking protected bike lanes for low cost that work great. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 6:06 PM Also, the best thing that you could do asap is lower speed limits citywide. from Patrick Casey to everyone: 6:07 PM Possibly additional raised crosswalks where 4-way stops aren't necessarily an option? Seems to be working well on 500E between 1700 and 2100... Living on 400E, we have people drive 60+ all the time and doesn't seem to happen as much on 500E from Dave Iltis to everyone: 6:08 PM Both are good. from Dave Iltis to everyone: 6:11 PM Follow the Complete Streets Ordinance. from Handwerker, Lara to everyone: 6:14 PM https://www.menti.com/om53d3o5g2 from stewart soleman to everyone: 6:17 PM I would not like to be chair either, Sorry from Joshua Poppel to everyone: 6:18 PM I'm out for Chair as well. from Danny Houpt computer to everyone: 6:26 PM Thank you Martin! from josalyn bates to everyone: 6:28 PM You will be great Martin!! Thank you from josalyn bates to everyone: 6:28 PM ditto from Patrick Casey to everyone: 6:29 PM Ooh ooh we should go for a bike ride... from josalyn bates to everyone: 6:29 PM Thank you David!! Your awesome from Patrick Casey to everyone: 6:31 PM Thanks for having me! Looking forward to being involved. Motion: Joshua Poppet motioned to adjourn the meeting; Josalyn Bates seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:3o p.m. Approved by Committee 08-16-2021 Page 6 of 6 TAB/BAC 06-21-2021 Minutes