11/15/2021 - Meeting Minutes SALT LAKE CITY
BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes of the November 15, 2021 Meeting
BAC Members Present for this meeting were Daniel Houpt, David Parrott, Gabriela
Knudson, Josalyn Bates, Joshua Poppel, Martin Cuma, and Rachel Manko.
BAC Members Absent for this meeting were Jacquelyn Thiel, Patrick Casey, and Sam
Janse.
Also present were Amy Lyons, George Chapman, Dustin Parks, Jenn Diederich, Dave
Iltis, Julianne Sabula, Tom Millar, Lara Handwerker, Paighten Harkins,Alex Beim,
Cassandra, Joe Taylor, and Kayla Kinkead.
The meeting was held electronically via WebEx and was called to order at 5:05 p.m.by
Martin Cuma. Martin welcomed everyone.
Public Comment
George Chapman has been trying to get SLC to recognize that the bicycle path on the
east side of goo East from 2600 South going north to Simpson, is one of the most
dangerous paths he's ever seen. The path has a bunch of uneven rocks placed at a slant
next to the bicycle path and on the other side of the path is a beveled edge which he
thinks is also dangerous. He also feels the beveled edge is going to cause an accident for
anyone with a stroller or who is mobility challenged using the sidewalk. He said the
bicycle path that they asked for was a raised path on the east side of the street and that
didn't really happen. In his opinion,what SLC did put in is very dangerous. In addition,
there is a bulb out, which tends to push bicyclists into traffic if they aren't designed
correctly. They are mainly to decrease the distance in crossing streets for pedestrians.
Unfortunately, SLC put one in right next to Hollywood Avenue on goo East and
Hollywood has a divider to limit traffic which means if a northbound cyclist wants to
turn onto Hollywood, they not only have to go into traffic but also must slow down
significantly to make that turn. He thinks these are two very dangerous designs for
bicyclists and he would like the BAC to investigate further. Martin said he wanted to
raise this issue as well and while he hasn't personally been on the path yet, he will check
it out prior to the next meeting. George said he will send pictures to Lara to share with
the Committee. Martin said he also agrees with George on the bulb outs. He said they
should not really be used in high traffic roads where the speed of the vehicles is not the
same as the speed of the cyclists because it forces the bike into the car lane and the car
moves at a different speed than the bike so it's dangerous for the bike. Lara said she will
add this as a future agenda item. Dave Iltis said that as ioo South moves along, it's a
reminder that SLC broke the law with their street design and the reasons that the
Complete Streets Committee gave for not giving a road diet to ioo South are wrong. The
FHWA recommends road diets on emergency vehicle routes. SLC did nothing more
than assert that they couldn't do a road diet because it is a route to the U of U. They
fabricated reasons that were a stretch of logic as to why they couldn't do this. They said
they can't put bike lanes on ioo South because it's not in the Pedestrian/Bicycle Master
Plan which is nonsense. The precedent this sets for the future where the Complete
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Streets ordinance can be ignored on the whim of the Transportation Director and the
Complete Streets Committee is awful and if the Becker administration followed this on
100 South, there would have been bike lanes from State Street to 500 East and then
there would be bike lanes from 900 East to University so we would be close to
completing a corridor from State Street to the University. His understanding is that this
was also discussed in the University to Downtown Bikeway Plan. The fact that the
administration said there is no need for bike lanes on 100 South is not only offensive,
but also not keeping with what has been studied previously. The real consequence of
this poor outcome is when is that when the SLC administration breaks the law, there is
no way to get them to follow it short of suing them and that is too high a bar for most
people to be able to do it. Tom Millar is going to talk about the Typologies which kind of
in tandem goes with the Complete Streets ordinance. This ordinance that we have is
pretty good but if the City refuses to follow it,what's to say they're going to follow any
update to this and what are the consequences. The Complete Streets ordinance is a law,
it's not just a suggestion like Transportation has put on their website and it says the city
shall put bikeways and pedestrian ways on any street that undergoes construction. The
law becomes utterly useless if it's not followed and if the reasons against it are made up
and wrong. In terms of the argument against the road diet on 100 South, the current
street configuration while they are doing construction is more stringent than a road diet
in that there are only two lanes of traffic and as far as I know, there have been no
problems whatsoever getting with cars getting to the U of U. It is also a natural
experiment that shows yet again, SLC is wrong in their decision in this and if we want to
move forward with better projects for climate change, safety and for people moving
around SLC, things must change in the Transportation Division. If they don't, we're
going to have the same nonsense with just a little bit of improvement, if there is no
backbone within Transportation to push bike lanes where they really belong,we're not
going to move forward very quickly. Martin said his personal feeling is that the "train
has left the building" on this project but the BAC needs to be more vigilant for future
projects. He agrees with Dave and said there was a similar situation with prior
administration, and they need to keep an eye on these things and voice their position.
Approval of Minutes
Motion: Martin Cuma moved to modify the minutes of the October 18, 2021 meeting.
David Parrott seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Motion: Martin Cuma moved to approve the minutes of the October 18, 2021 meeting.
David Parrott seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Committee Announcements &Updates
There were no Committee Announcements or Updates.
SLC Street&Intersection Typologies Design Guide
Tom Millar, SLC Transportation
The Street and Intersection Typologies Design Guide is now live for its third and final
round of public input. The materials have been put together into one convenient design
guide document and are broken out into different sections so they can be seen
separately as well. All eight chapters of the design guide as well as all the designs
themselves and any other materials that have been produced, are available in English
and Spanish. Tom said they are going on about 21/2 years of public input and there have
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been more than 5,00o comments so far and they hope to get another i,000 or so with
this last round wrapping up on November 3oth. He would love for the BAC to get the
message out about this project and the opportunity to comment to all their contacts,
neighborhoods, community councils and anyone else they think would be interested.
This is not specifically about bikes, it is more broadly about transportation,land use and
place making. There is a huge bicycle component to the project because any street that
has a design speed over 25mph in this design, has a proposed physically separated bike
lane. Any street between 20-25mph design speed would have a painted bike lane and
anything below 2omph design speed would have traffic calming appropriate for the
scenario so people feel comfortable walking and bicycling in the street if they desire.
This information can be viewed here: https://www.slc.gov/transportation/typologies or
in Spanish here: https://www.slc.gov/transportation/tipologias. In addition to these
materials, there was a press release and postcards went out to all 25k residential
addresses west of State Street because in the second round there was a lot of input from
the east side of the city and now, they want to make sure the west side of the city is
aware of the project. Martin said they need to promote this, so more feedback is
received. Lara asked Tom if he had any guidance for how the BAC should view and
comment on this information. Tom said the recommendations for the bicycle facilities
and the transit facilities are based on previous master plans that outline a good network
of bicycle facilities. This was a good opportunity to bring them all into one cohesive
design so they can visualize what a street could look like with all those competing
priorities for space. He said if there was one thing that he would recommend BAC look
at, he would say pay attention to the streets that do not have certain types of bicycle
infrastructure. If they believe that some streets should have or should not have certain
types of bicycle infrastructure, he would love their comments. They can go into the
survey and provide their feedback on each of those 15 Typologies or, if their comment is
specific to a street, they can go to the interactive map and comment in one specific
location. Martin reminded everyone that the survey goes until November 3oth and said
he thinks in general, it's great and is glad to see all the bike infrastructure in the plan.
Bicycle Theft, Misc. SLCPD Topics
Dustin Parks&Jenn Diederich, SLCPD
Dustin asked specifically what type of information the BAC is looking for. Martin said
for one thing, there is a lot of bicycle theft in his own neighborhood, and it seems like it's
getting worse. He asked from the PD perspective, what they are seeing and what they
are doing because bicycle theft limits people's mobility. Dustin said that unfortunately,
there are some skilled bike thieves that seem to have cutters that can cut through almost
any lock. He said the U-bolt locks seem to be the best but some of these bike thefts are
unavoidable because some of these thieves are so good. His first recommendation is to
register all bikes online (http://www.slcpd.com/bike-registration/). He said it is also
crucial to have your serial number as only one in fifteen people who get their bicycle
stolen, know that number and it has a dramatic effect on recovering the bike. Being
vigilant about where a bike is left is important and if they notice a pattern, they should
reach out to their District Community Liaison Officer which can be found here:
http://www.slcpd.com/community-engagement/community/. Jenn said that if a
bicycle is stolen, it is almost immediately listed online for sale and it helps if you do a
little investigative work looking for it because you will see your bike before PD is able to.
If you find your bicycle, call them and they can help facilitate making that a safer
transition to catch that person who has it. She said you're better off working with a
detective if you find your bicycle but if there are no priority calls, an officer can assist
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you with that, but it is not safe to try and get it back by yourself. Martin said he would
like to see more enforcement; it seems like people are doing this because there isn't any
retribution for it. Jenn apologized but said proactive enforcement is down right now
because they are down at least ioo officers. They are trying to boost those numbers
because they would rather be proactive than reactive. Dustin said people are often
frustrated with them by the punishment but reminded them that the PD has no control
over that. They can only arrest people for the crimes they commit. Martin asked how
the BAC could help them reach the public and tell them what they need to do to protect
and recover their stolen bicycles. Dustin said he can talk to their PR team and see if they
can put something together. Martin thought that would be a good idea to have at
neighborhood festivals. Josalyn asked if the pawn shops have a system to know a
bicycle is stolen. Jenn said they do put the serial number in the system and the SLCPD
has someone who goes out once or twice a week and looks for stolen items at pawn
shops. She also said that not only registering your bicycle but having a picture of your
bike and your serial number is very helpful. Martin thanked them for coming and said
he hopes when things get better, they will be able to focus on bicycle thefts. Jenn said
they are eager to do these types of things and they do genuinely care and want to help
when they can.
CIP Survey Results
Lara Handwerker, SLC Transportation
Lara was going to share the survey results but since there were only two, she didn't feel
that would be very insightful. Instead, she said there were a couple of staffing changes
with UTA, and Alex Beim is now the rep who will be attending the BAC meetings. Alex
introduced himself and said he is in UTA's long range and strategic planning group. He
said he's excited and interested in bikes and active transportation and happy to answer
questions. Martin asked about the bike hooks in the TRAX trains and Alex said he
doesn't know if there is a more effective solution,but he'll check into it. Martin also said
he isn't feeling very comfortable on TRAX lately because of questionable people riding it
and thinks it is instrumental for people to use public transit. Alex said public spaces can
be challenging but there is security on the trains and any issue can be reported to UTA.
There was a comment in the chat about bus driver training and he said that is something
they are looking into as far as people being comfortable taking bikes on busses and he
will check into training regarding how bus drivers interact while passing busses. Lara
said she'll put UTA on as a future agenda item.
Transportation Master Plan Activity&Discussion
Joe Taylor, SLC Transportation
Joe quickly reviewed the background, policy areas and timeline of this plan. He said a
paid Community Advisory Council has been selected and represents a diverse range of
transportation users. The first round of public engagement is a high-level focus on what
people value, not talking about any specific mode, problem or issue,just what people
care about in respect to transportation. He had the Committee take this survey and will
combine their answers and send the results later. The survey itself is in English and
Spanish and can be found here: https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-
studies/tmp/. He can be contacted at connectslc@slcgov.com with any questions and
will be back to present to BAC as soon as there are draft policy documents. Martin
asked everyone to take the survey which ends on December 3ist.
BAC WebEx Meeting Chat Info
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from Millar, Tom to everyone: 5:23 PM
https://www.slc.gov/transportation/typologies
from Millar, Tom to everyone: 5:23 PM
https://www.slc.gov/transportation/tipologias
from Millar, Tom to everyone: 5:29 PM
If you have any additional questions or concerns or comments, please visit the project
webpages or call me (801-535-6134) or email me (tom.millar@slcgov.com). Thanks,
everyone. Have a great evening.
from Lyons,Amy to everyone: 5:31 PM
http://www.slcpd.com/bike-registration/
from George Chapman to everyone: 5:33 PM
call SLCPD Evidence Room 799 3041
from George Chapman to everyone: 5:37 PM
many recovered bikes are not returned due to no report/serial numbers so call evidence
room if you have serial number.
from Dave Iltis to everyone: 5:41 PM
Bikeindex.org
from Martin Cuma to everyone: 6:05 PM
Here's the code: 2848 1809
from Martin Cuma to everyone: 6:11 PM
https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-studies/tmp/
Motion: Martin Cuma motioned to adjourn the meeting; David Parrott seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:13 p.m.
Approved by Committee 03-21-22
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