9/1/2022 - Meeting Minutes PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRY AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
Formal Meeting
Thursday,September 1,2022
5:00 p.m.—7:15 p.m.
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Minutes (approved)
1—Convening the Meeting 5:00 PM
Call to order
- Polly Hart
- Brianna Binnebose
- Samantha Finch
- Melanie Pehrson
- Phil Carroll
- Ginger Cannon
- Clayton Scrivner
- Aaron Wiley
- CJ Whittaker
Chair comments 5 mins
Polly Hart called the meeting to order and thanked Brianna Binnebose for chairing the
meeting in August.
2—Approval of Minutes 5:05 PM
Approve August 4, 2022, meeting minutes 5 mins
Ms. Hart asked if anyone had any edits to the August PNUT meeting minutes. Ginger
Cannon moved to approve the minutes; Samantha Finch seconded the motion.The
Board voted unanimously to approve the August 4 meeting minutes.
3—Public Comment Period 5:10 PM
Verbal comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes; 15 minutes total. Written
comments are welcome.
4—Staff Discussion and Agenda Items 5:25 PM
Glendale Regional Park Master Plan Update—Action Item 30 mins
Ms. Cannon asked if Tom Millar and other new Public Lands staff members could
please introduce themselves to the Board.
Mr. Millar introduced himself as the new Public Lands Planning Manager working with
Katherine Maus and Makaylah Respicio-Evans. Mr. Millar will be heading up work on
the General Obligation bond that is on the ballot for this November as well as the
strategic capital planning over the next five years. Mr. Millar hails from the City's
Transportation Division and has been to the PNUT Board meetings in the past working
in other projects.
Minerva Jimenez-Garcia introduced herself as the new Civic Engagement Program
Specialist. Ms.Jimenez-Garcia completed her master's at the University of Utah's City
and Metropolitan Planning Department. Minerva will be working directly on projects
while Van Hoover will be working on partnership and volunteer coordination.
Kat Maus introduced the presentation as the final concept plan and Master Plan
document. This has been released to the public for review on the SLC Public Lands
website in an interactive version as well as a downloadable PDF format (link:
https://www.slc.gov/parks/parks-division/glendale-waterpark/).
Ms. Maus shared her screen and explained the mission statement and park goals for
the Glendale Regional Park Master Plan and emphasized the community engagement
pieces that guided the direction of the new park's vision.These included Glendale
Neighborhood Community Council,youth engagement among Glendale Middle School
and Mountain View Elementary, and citywide engagement via online surveys and in-
person open houses. Ms. Maus presented the demographic breakdown from the
online survey, which demonstrated that 81%of survey respondents live or work
nearby the Glendale Park.
The community feedback received translated into key park features for the
development of Glendale Park; Ms. Maus stated that water features were at the top of
the list of desirable park amenities. She also displayed the SLC Public Lands webpage
that contains the interactive map of the site, showing the board how to navigate it.
Phil Carroll inquired about the walking path. Ms. Maus showed the Board members
the areas of walking paths and showed how they connect to various amenities
throughout the park.
Ms. Maus explained that year-round use of the site had been carefully thought
through, from sledding and ice-skating rinks in the winter to hiking and roller-skating in
the summer.
Ms. Maus switched to speaking only about Phase 1 Park Features, which will be
developed by April 2024. Phase 1 consists of park elements 1-12. She mentioned that
community and event programming was included in Phase 1.
Ms. Cannon asked if any of the programming was done by full-time SLC staff since
there is no recreation programming arm of the City; Ms. Maus replied that this was
true, and that there is a policy section that goes into programming within the Master
Plan that contains a menu-type formatting that provides options for hiring staff and/or
partnering with other existing entities that already have the programming.
Ms. Finch inquired about the cost of Phase 1; Ms. Maus replied that the City currently
has$3.2 million allocated for Phase 1 but would like to expand it to include about$7
million in work, potentially exploring bond funding to supplement the project cost. If
the General Obligation bond does not pass on the November ballot,then Public Lands
has a plan to request additional money from City Council.
Ms. Maus then touched on regional access to the site, including exploring partnerships
and conversations with UTA and other transit organizations to provided equitable and
regional access to the site.This is on pages 13 and 14 of the plan.
Ms. Maus also demonstrated to the Board environmental and community metrics for
the plan.
Ms. Hart asked if the native plantings they're going to do now will be in place for the
future or if they will just be dug up later. Ms. Maus responded that they will be mostly
focusing on ornamental plantings for now and not native restoration due to the active
construction that will continue.
Melanie Pehrson asked Ms. Maus about the existing tree maintenance on the site; Ms.
Maus replied that the native trees are doing well without any irrigation most likely due
to being well-rooted within the water table. Ms. Maus also added that there are quite
a few invasive tree species on site as well. Either way,tree protection is tightly built
into the plan, Ms. Maus stated.
Ms. Maus continued that, with the Glendale Park site, Public Lands is pursuing
Sustainable Sites Initiative (SITES) certification, which would be the first time for the
City.This is akin to LEED certification for buildings, but for landscaping during and after
the site build.
Ms. Cannon mentioned that this is one of the most exciting things to her in the Master
Plan and that she is happy to see how it works out for other future city sites.
Ms. Maus touched on the Policies, Operations, and Maintenance section of the Plan,
which covers the day-to-day operations of the site once it is constructed, such as
janitorial.The next steps for the plan are:
• Presentation to the Community Advisory Committee and the Glendale
Community Council: September 21, 2022, in-person/virtual
• Brief to City Council: October 4, 2022
• Tentative presentation to Planning Commission to recommend adoption:
October 2022
• Tentative Adoption by City Council: Winter 2022
In terms of action requested of the PNUT Board, Ms. Maus explained that nothing is
needed from the Board until early October, whereupon a letter or even a motion
would be welcome to signal the Board's support of the Plan to the City Council.
Mr. Carroll asked if there is transit near that property; Ms. Maus stated that currently,
there is neither transit nor off-street parking in the space. However,the
Transportation Division would be amenable to removing the "no parking" signs once
the Park is up and running and there is also another lot across 1700 S at the 17th South
River Park asset.
Ms. Cannon asked whether, after the 45-day period of public notice, Ms. Maus will
come back to the PNUT Board with the final draft of incorporated public comments so
that the PNUT Board may procure a joint letter of support with the Transportation
Advisory Committee (TAB) or vote on a motion to support. Ms. Cannon then asked Ms.
Maus if she could get onto the TAB's agenda to present the plan to them in effort to
advocate for transportation improvements for the site's build-out. Ms. Maus replied
that most likely she could do that, but would need to check with the TAB.
Mr. Millar stated that TAB's next meeting is on September 12, so Ms. Maus would
need to coordinate this with TAB staff in time for the TAB's agenda's public posting
requirements per the Open and Public Meetings Act.
Ms. Maus also offered an alternative option where the PNUT Board could submit a
letter of support and Ms. Maus could present the letter of support at the TAB's
October meeting and request a letter from TAB at that point, too.
The PNUT Board informally agreed that this was another viable option in case Ms.
Maus could not get onto TAB's September agenda in time. Ms. Hart asked if Ms.
Cannon would be fine with heading up the communications and letter-writing
between PNUT and TAB; Ms. Cannon accepted.
Ms. Finch asked the purpose for having TAB's explicit support; Ms. Cannon replied that
part of the reasoning has to do with what the Plan is trying to promote. For instance,
with pedestrian crossings, pulling their attention to the Master Plan to see the
implications to transportation—which is in the PNUT Board's bylaws—will invite their
support to advocate for future public transportation or other infrastructure
improvements in the 1700 South area.
Ms. Finch and Ms. Cannon clarified their vision for support of the Plan between both
departments. Ms. Cannon stated that she believes City Council will also pay more
attention to a joint letter from two advisory boards.
Mr. Carroll stated that residents in the area will need to have access to safe crossing
points along 1700 South.
Ms. Cannon asked if the street in question was UDOT-owned; Mr. Millar stated that it
is a City-owned street East and West of Redwood Road. Ms. Hart clarified that it would
be the City who the Board would be advocating for a tunnel or bridge crossing, and Mr.
Carroll stated a street-level crossing is what he envisioned. Ms. Hart replied that she
did not believe that that would work in that area, safety-wise.
Kristin Riker, Director of Public Lands, asked if Mr. Millar had any knowledge of the
Streets Division's plans for 1700 South. Mr. Millar responded that Streets was going to
resurface 1700 S, which adds an opportunity to redesign the street. He also added that
reducing lanes on streets and redesigning it in other ways often decreases the amount
of traffic, perhaps eliminating the need for bridges over the street and so forth. Mr.
Millar added that it does have the opportunity to change some of Transportation's
conversations about this area. Ms. Maus seconded Mr. Millar's points made about
Transportation and re-affirmed that she had been working with Transportation and
neighborhoods throughout the development of the Plan.
Mr. Carroll stated that he would prefer the PNUT Board not be slowed down by
waiting for the TAB's response and support, as he is supportive of the Plan. Board
discussion on the Plan and timeline continued. Ms. Maus clarified that the Department
is targeting an October 26 Planning Commission date; therefore, any time prior to that
would be ideal for obtaining advisory board support from PNUT and TAB.
Ms. Hart re-stated the reasons for her nervousness regarding 1700 S and safe
pedestrian crossings; Ms. Cannon responded that this is exactly why it is a good idea to
work closely with TAB so that these safety concerns are addressed. Ms. Riker also
stated that this was a similar concern when the water park was first built in this
original area.
Ms. Finch asked if there are other pools managed under Salt Lake City, and what the
plan was for recreational management; Ms. Maus replied that Sorenson, which is an
indoor pool, is one that is technically City-owned the City has been in conversations
with Salt Lake County about this. Ms. Riker stated that the County had been looking at
this site in their own master plan but had initially encouraged a splash pad over a pool;
however, public opinion favored a pool over a splash pad.There is also currently no
outdoor pool on the City's Westside.
Ms. Finch clarified that if they followed the plan, they should be able to attain the
stated goals; Ms. Maus replied yes,this is true. Ms. Finch then asked if there were any
lessons learned from Liberty Park,the City's current popular regional park, that were
applied to the Glendale Regional Park's Plan. Ms. Maus replied that parking was a big
one, and then Tracy Aviary and the concessionaire are successful public-private
partnerships that they also considered.
Mr. Carroll and Ms. Maus also discussed the running and walking aspects planned for
the Glendale Regional Park.
Ms. Cannon asked if there were any goals directly connected to the goals in the
Reimagine Nature Master Plan. Ms. Maus replied that many of the goals overlap, but
that the Glendale Regional Park Plan did not explicitly refer to the Reimagine Nature
Master Plan.
Mr. Carroll asked if adding a bridge or a tunnel came up on public comment; Ms. Maus
replied that crossing at 1700 South was probably one of the top issues that people
voiced. Mr. Carroll stated that he would like to see a bridge incorporated into the Plan.
Ms. Maus stated that she wasn't certain if Public Lands can make a formal
recommendation for a Transportation-related project, such as a bridge,which is
outside of Public Lands'jurisdiction; she would have to investigate this further.
Luke Allen mentioned that member Aaron Wiley had added a few questions and one
comment to the Webex chat feature during the Board's discussion:
• "Access to outdoor pools on the westside is important to the community."
• "Does that mean that this master plan needs to be updated to show safer
access at one of stages?"
• "Within the plan how will you address lighting?"
Ms. Maus replied that this vision plan does not go into the details of lighting
specifically, but as they move forward with more detailed designs in Phase 1, they will
be reaching out to the public for comments and feedback on what they'd like to see
with lighting. Tyler Murdock, Deputy Director of Public Lands, replied in the Webex
chat,that page 15 of the Vision Plan does discuss pedestrian crossings and need.
Mr. Allen shared more member comments from the Chat from Board members and
staff.
Ms. Maus stated that next steps will be for her to work with Luke to prepare for
returning to the Board's October meeting to update members with anything further;
she will also see if she can get on a TAB agenda in either September or October.
Ms. Pehrson asked Ms. Maus how Public Lands was currently accepting public
comment; Ms. Maus replied that they have an email address dedicated to this along
with the community engagement touch points allowing for robust public comment.
Ms. Cannon asked if there was anything that Board members could do to promote the
public comment period, and Ms. Maus replied that if the Board would like to share the
webpage,that would be great. She also added that folks can attend the September 21s'
Glendale Community Council meeting to receive an overview of the Vision Plan like
today's and could also ask questions on that day.
Ms. Pehrson and Ms. Maus discussed budget considerations and the hired consultant
for the Vision Plan.
Board members commended Ms. Maus on her work and dedication to the Glendale
Park Regional Park Vision Plan. Ms. Maus responded with gratitude for the Board's
feedback throughout the process as well.
5—Board Discussion and Action Items 5:55 PM
N/A(Potential Recess) 20 mins
6—GO Bond 6:15 PM
GO Bond Presentation—Jason Swann,Trust for Public Land q
Boyd Ferguson, City Attorney, shared the guidelines around advocacy versus education
when it comes to the PNUT Board discussing the General Obligation bond.Three
applicable state statutes are:
• The City may not spend public funds to campaign or advocate for or against a
ballot proposition.
• A municipal officer or employee may not use municipal equipment while
engaged in political activity.
• A person may not send an email on the city email system to advocate for or
against a ballot proposition.
These rules apply to city employees, appointees, elected officials, and anyone else who
is supported by City funds, including boards and commissions.
Mr. Ferguson noted three scenarios for folks in the room to concern themselves with:
1. For example, at a PNUT Board meeting,the Board may not advocate for or
against a ballot proposition in the city meeting because for one, it is held
within a City building and secondly,the PNUT Board is supported to some
degree by city funds.
2. Suppose you are invited to attend a City Council meeting in your capacity as a
PNUT Board member.You may not advocate for or against the ballot
proposition in that setting, even though the meeting may not be held in a City
building, as PNUT Board members are still supported by city funding.
3. You attend a community council meeting as an individual, not as a PNUT Board
member. In that case, you may advocate for or against the ballot proposition,
as another part of the law covers people retaining their individuals first
amendment rights to speak.
a. In that third scenario, if someone were to ask the attending member if
they are on the PNUT Board, then it would be advisable for the
member to respond, "Yes, I am, but I am not here in that capacity, I am
here as an individual at this time."
Mr. Carroll asked if it was then correct that the PNUT Board cannot make a resolution
in favor of the ballot proposition; Mr. Ferguson replied that this was a correct
interpretation. Mr. Ferguson further explained his interpretation of what constitutes
an educational material positive in tone versus materials that encourages someone to
vote for or against a ballot proposition. He stated that you can provide neutral
information; but, if someone asks whether the board member considers the ballot
proposition a good idea or not,then that is where you draw the line.
Ms. Hart asked a question regarding advocating as a private citizen, and Mr. Ferguson
clarified that they may advocate as a private citizen. He further acknowledged that at
times,this line may be blurry for Board members depending on the context; Mr.
Ferguson also stated that Board members need not initiate that the conversation
stating that they are PNUT Board members, but if they are asked, respond in the
appropriate way that he has laid out above.
Ms. Cannon asked if the PNUT Board were to establish a subcommittee within the
Board whose purpose was to disseminate general information about the GO Bond, if
that would be going against ordinance. Mr. Ferguson replied that such a subcommittee
would be subject to the same concepts that he just described for the PNUT Board
itself;the subcommittee would need to be conscious just like the Board needs to be
and stick to neutral information-sharing when acting in the capacity of a subcommittee
member,though they would be able to advocate in their capacity as an individual.
Mr. Ferguson went on to state that the outside consultant hired by the City is being
paid by the City and acting as the City's agent, taking the same care for how they
interact with the ballot proposition as the PNUT Board, and its subcommittees must
do.
Mr. Ferguson clarified that community councils, which are not connected to the City,
may advocate for a ballot proposition within their meetings so long as the meeting is
not held in a City-owned building.
Ms. Riker thanked Mr. Ferguson for the guiding information and proceeded to
introduce the GO Bond project consultants Will Abberger,Vice President and Director
of Conservation Finance, and Jason Swann, Intermountain West Program Director for
Conservation Finance. Ms. Riker shared with the Board that she had been working with
these folks with the Trust for Public Lands since March 2020, and they have helped
Public Lands develop the vision about the bond and have provided a great deal of
advice.
Jason Swann shared their screen with accompanying presentation slides.Jason
thanked the PNUT board for having them and introduced themselves.Jason proceeded
to speak to the board about the Trust for Public Land's (TPL) work with municipalities
and what TPL's work has entailed thus far.Jason explained that TPL is a national
nonprofit with 35 offices across the United States that has generated over$85 billion
in public funding for parks and access to lands and waters, has completed over 5,000
projects in parks,trails, schoolyards, and iconic outdoor spaces, and has created access
to over 3.7 million acres of public land for over 9 million people.
Jason emphasized that what connects communities together is green space, and this is
where TPL comes into play, protecting land conservation and restoration through
research, design, policy advocacy, and thought leadership in the field.
Jason presented a table to the Board that illustrated Utah's local conservation finance
ballot measures between 1996 and 2020, sourced from TPL's LandVote database,
which has led to the creation of roughly$100 million in conservation finance in various
jurisdictions throughout Utah.Jason then presented a breakdown of public funding for
land conservation within the United States between 1998 and 2021, illustrating that
most of this funding—51%--comes from local government.The reason for this is due
to the level of interaction and closeness local government has with the issues
impacting them.
Jason also presented a chart that displayed proof that voters will approve tax increases
in the name of conservation, no matter the political party currently at the helm.Jason
then moved on to discuss the three key ingredients for a conservation funding
foundation, through TPL's perspective, which are: Community Support, Demonstrable
Need and/or Risk, and Elected Leadership.
Regarding measuring community support,Jason said that TPL was able to conduct
feasibility studies and received statistically significant survey responses that
constituents were interested in voting for a conservation funding measure.
Additionally,TPL wanted to understand what both the public's and elected official's
conservation priorities were.
Regarding elected leadership,TPL was also able to work with the SLC Mayor and City
Council to coordinate the city referendum process.
Lastly, regarding gauging a demonstrable need and/or risk, it was very vital for the TPL
to lean on the partners and community connections on the ground, including the PNUT
Board,to inform the information-gathering process.
Jason then touched on the critical steps for obtaining a successful ballot measure, with
TPL currently being in the final stage of the process,the Campaign stage.Jason
reiterated that 75%of the work is done in prior stages, such as the Community
Engagement stage. It has taken over two years of work to get to the final stage,Jason
mentioned.
Jason stated that the next steps in the Campaign stage include procuring
communications and educational materials for the public.
Ms. Finch asked if a three-page memo that FM3 Research sent to Jason and that Jason
then forwarded to the PNUT Board was something that Board members could
disseminate?Jason stated that yes, it was; Ms. Riker clarified that everything that
comes from TPL is not City-produced or vetted. She further emphasized that every
single material that she and other staff send to the PNUT Board is first sent to City
Attorney Boyd Ferguson for review and final approval. She added that anything sent to
PNUT Board members by anyone other than Salt Lake City can be shared by a Board
member in their capacity as an individual, and not as a city board member. This is also
true for anything coming from the City-contracted consultant on the project, who also
need to operate under the purview of guidelines set forth earlier by City Attorney
Ferguson.
Ms. Finch asked several clarifying questions, including another prior measure that was
pulled from the ballot, which both Jason and Ms. Riker answered.
Ms. Cannon confirmed that there is less than 60 days left until the GO bond vote. She
then asked if it would be beneficial to begin forming a subcommittee to devise a
targeted response at this time. Mr. Carroll clarified that, because each member
represents diverse districts with their own active community councils, this may be
appropriate for community councils to begin discussing prior to the November
elections; Mr. Carroll then asked for confirmation that this would be something he
would have to do as an individual, rather than as representing the PNUT Board.The
Board and staff confirmed that yes,this is an example of something Mr. Carroll and all
PNUT Board members would have to do in their capacity as individuals.
Ms. Riker replied to Mr. Carroll's and Ms. Cannon's comments that members are
always welcome to reach out to anyone present in today's Board meeting for ideas on
how to navigate that, but she reiterated that tonight, the Board is strictly covering the
educational side of the issue.
Ms. Finch stated that she had another question for the TPL Team about their polling
questions—one of them being about the public's confidence in the government to
spend the funds appropriately. Ms. Finch noted that this question produced one of the
lower-percentage responses; she also noted that the polling questions were broad in
nature (e.g., "Do you love clean air?" etc.). Ms. Finch went on to ask if there was any
discrepancy or daylight concerns about the city spending the money appropriately
regarding that concern that was highlighted in their polling?Jason Swann thanked Ms.
Finch for the question and said that they believed this is typical of what one sees in
polling the public regarding government spending, regardless of jurisdiction: local,
county, state.Jason mentioned that, if TPL's polling responses were bad—which in this
case,they didn't believe it was—TPL would then suggest that accountability provisions
be added to the ballot language, such as a citizens oversight committee, sunset
provisions, and so forth. Will Abberger added that there is a high degree of distrust
amongst all voters towards government in the nation right now, and that it is good
that groups like the PNUT Board exist to ensure that the city is spending the funding in
congruence with what voters expect.
Mr. Carroll asked if the GO Bond was for capital investments and improvements or if
programming was also included;Jason responded that it was just for capital and that
bonds are not allowed to do any kind of maintenance or anything like that.Jason also
mentioned that there is a project list that has been circulating, and they would be
happy to send it again.
Ms. Finch asked if the actual ballot language has already been released to the public;
Ms. Riker responded that it was released on August 16, 2022, in the City Council
meeting as part of their meeting materials. Ms. Riker stated that she was happy to
send the Board the link to this Council page.
Ms. Finch continued that she was assuming that the language chosen for the GO Bond
was language most successful across all jurisdictions wherever they've tried this type
of bond measure, and that she imagines there must be equation more conducive to
obtaining a "yes"vote than a "no"vote.Jason responded that TPL was not directly
involved with ballot language creation in this instance,though it is something that TPL
does. Will Abberger added that there are liability requirements under Utah law that a
city must meet regarding ballot language.
Ms. Riker added that the Bond Council made their own decisions about they wanted
the language to read; Public Lands provided them with TPL's language suggestions, but
it was not utilized.Jason and Will confirmed that TPL thought viewed the language as
fine to use.
Mr. Carroll asked questions regarding about a budget campaign for the GO Bond and
whether an opposition group had come forward. Ms. Riker responded that an
opposition group has not come forward at this time,though Public Lands is aware of
some con-GO Bond comments following press coverage of the Bond. She added that
when Public Lands releases the public information pamphlet, it will contain a "pro"
argument as well as a "con" argument.Thus,the City has put out a call to anyone who
would like to create the "con" argument to contact the City by September 5,with the
closing of that by September 9. Pending the City does not receive any responses to
their call, Public Lands consultants will do their best to develop a transparent"con"
argument based on the information they have from the public.
Mr. Carroll stated that he is deeply involved in his community council, and so if he or
another Board member wanted to present on the GO Bond in a community council
meeting, could they call upon city staff to do so? Ms. Riker responded that Public
Lands staff can try to attend community council meetings to deliver GO Bond
informational presentations; though, Ms. Riker added that Public Lands is currently
working with its consultant to put together an educational video that will include
information that can be shared in newsletters and meetings. She added that Public
Lands and the City want to ensure that they equitably disseminate information in the
short amount of time between now and the election on November 8 and aren't certain
they will be able to schedule time to go to every single community council meeting.
Thus Ms. Riker stressed that equitable information dissemination is key to informing
Public Lands' strategy for creating a video and so forth.
Mr. Allen added that Minerva Jimenez-Garcia, Public Lands Community Partnership
and Engagement Coordinator, had sent a factual, informational letter to every
community council chair prior to today's PNUT meeting regarding the GO Bond. Mr.
Allen stated that Minerva encouraged chairs to reach back out to Public Lands with any
questions and we will be sure to address them in the voter information materials that
we will answer the most frequently asked questions. Lastly, Mr. Allen informed the
PNUT Board that Public Lands is setting up an informational website on the GO Bond
and that staff will send the website link to Board members as well as community
council chairs when it is live and ready to share.
Ms. Hart asked if every City Council district seat is currently represented by the PNUT
Board; Mr. Allen confirmed this. Ms. Hart then said that every member who is a non-
at-large seat could make it their duty to reach out to the community council(s)within
their district to ensure public discussion of the GO Bond gets on the community
councils' agenda. Ms. Riker assured Mr. Carroll and the rest of the Board that Public
Lands is moving as quickly as possible with developing informational materials with its
consultant team; Ms. Riker believes that staff will be able to send out information and
get the website live prior to the Board's next meeting,though they've only had one
week so far to dive into everything. Ms. Riker also mentioned that the City's
constituent liaisons are also always at the community council meetings and will be
provided with all the GO Bond information as well.
Ms. Hart and Ms. Riker affirmed that the Mayor's Office is also involved with the GO
Bond efforts via their constituent liaisons being present at the community council
meetings. Mr. Carroll asked whether City constituent liaisons can advocate for the GO
Bond,to which Ms. Riker's responded that they are not; however,the Mayor can
advocate because she is an elected official. Ms. Riker clarifies that any elected official
may advocate for or against the GO Bond so long as they are not using city funds,
facilities, vehicles, or equipment. Mr. Carroll asked if lawn signs would be available;
Ms. Riker and Ms. Allen stated that they were uncertain if lawn signs were in the
scope, but anything that staff must share with PNUT in the coming months they will
absolutely do.
Ms. Hart inquired about TPL's involvement going forward and whether they can
coordinate signage with citizens. Will replied that TPL certainly has the expertise and
experience in this area, but unfortunately, not the funding to provide for an SLC
campaign. Will added that this money would need to be raised locally. Ms. Cannon
mentioned that it would be great if there was a Parks 501(c)(3)that existed so that
organization could take on a lot of the additional fundraising and advocacy work.
Mr. Carroll asked more clarifying questions relating to lawn signs; Tyler Murdock,
Deputy Director of Public Lands, replied in the Webex Chat, "Lawn signs are included in
our consultant's scope of work. I am not sure on the qty yet. We can update the board
on how many we will have."
Ms. Hart added that because the lawn signs are being paid for by the city, the lawn
signs can only contain factual, non-persuasive information. Ms. Riker and Ms. Pehrson
confirmed that any GO Bond educational materials sent to the PNUT Board have
already been vetted and cleared by City attorney Boyd Ferguson.
Ms. Hart asked whether the informational materials could also go up at trailheads; Ms.
Riker responded that Public Lands tries to refrain from doing this so that people are
not encouraged to place ever more items at our trails.
Ms. Finch asked TPL if PNUT Board members if they have any advice for the members
or can think of questions unasked.Jason reiterated that working with community
councils within members' representative districts to ensure that the GO Bond makes it
onto their agendas is a good approach; secondly,Jason also offered TPL strategizing
services to advocacy groups if Board members wanted to pass that information along
to community leaders in their districts. Will added that as individuals, members have
their own networks, individual email addresses, and social media platforms where they
have a right to advocate for the Bond.
Mr. Carroll asked if the Bond just covers Salt Lake City; Ms. Riker replied that yes,the
GO Bond just concerns SLC residents.
Ms. Cannon reminded the Board that in terms of projects in the Public Lands' queue
list—such as Glendale Regional,which is just$27 M on its own—the GO Bond funding
would really help with all the projects on that list.
Will Abberger mentioned that another no-cost way for members to get the word out
would be to write letters to the editor or via op-eds to local media sources as
individuals. Ms. Riker added that if Board members want to discuss more with Jason
and Will about how to personally advocate,they can follow-up with Will and Jason on
their own outside of this meeting.
Ms. Cannon reminded everyone that public hearings for the GO Bond were on October
11 and October 18 at the City Council; Ms. Riker added that this notice will be on the
public information packet as well, and that there would also be 4X6 cards mailed along
with ballots educating voters about the ballot measure.
Mr. Carroll asked when members will know when lawn signs are available; Mr.Allen
and Ms. Riker assured him that they will email him when the lawn signs are available.
Ms. Riker mentioned that she had just emailed all members the link to the August 16
City Council meeting that included GO Bond materials.
Mr. Carroll asked Jason Swann and Will Abberger about the Nature Conservancy's and
Huey Johnson's relationship to the Trust for Public Lands. Will explained that TPL is a
basically an offshoot of the Nature Conservancy, which is focused on the protection of
biological diversity; Huey and other founding members of the TPL felt that there was
also a need for an organization to focus on land for people.
Ms. Riker thanked Jason and Will for the TPL's efforts and time; Ms. Hart moved onto
the next agenda item.
7—Confirmation of Next Meeting, Board Comments& Future Agenda Items 7:00 PM
Board subcommittee updates as needed
• Trails subcommittee
Mr. Allen mentioned that Board member Brianna Binnebose had dropped off
the meeting, but that he had met with Ms. Binnebose and Ms. Pehrson a few
days prior about both the Trails and Communications Subcommittees.
Mr. Carroll mentioned that the subcommittee had discussed e-bikes.
• Communication subcommittee
Ms. Pehrson stated that Communications had discussed with Mr. Allen adding
to the Public Lands monthly newsletter which district each project is taking
place in, having the Communications Subcommittee review a few of the Public
Lands Communications Staff's communications plans, and providing PNUT
Board members with PNUT email addresses, phone numbers, and file-sharing
capabilities so that they are accessible to the public yet can also maintain
some privacy.
Mr. Allen also reminded members to reply to his email regarding their bios and
pictures. Member bios are to be 200 words or less.
Ms. Pehrson inquired about the potential usability of Slack and other
messaging platforms for the group to explore; Ms. Cannon replied that she
believed subcommittees could determine that on their own, referencing the
power given to subcommittees in the Board's bylaws. Ms. Pehrson clarified
that she was referring to a general Slack for PNUT to use,where there could be
different channels for each subcommittee. Ms. Cannon replied that she is open
to that, personally.
Mr.Allen mentioned that implementing a file-sharing system may help with
this.
Board comment and question period
Ms. Binnebose rejoined the meeting and inquired about a new board member joining
PNUT. Ms. Riker stated that there is another board member on the City Council's
agenda for approval on Tuesday, September 61h.This would be for Ms. Hart's position;
pending Ms. Hart's replacement is approved,the PNUT Board would need to add
"voting of a new PNUT Chair" as an agenda item to its October agenda.
Board discussion on chair election and Ms. Hart's replacement continued. Ms.
Binnebose will be prepared to chair next month's meeting.
Next meeting: October 6, 2022
Request for future agenda items
Ms. Finch mentioned Capitol Improvement Projects; Ms. Riker replied that Mr.
Murdock and his team are planning a CIP presentation for October.
Ms. Finch also mentioned another discussion around the GO Bond ballot measure. Ms.
Cannon mentioned it would be good to have such a discussion revolve around
educational materials available plus updates from individual members about what
they've been doing in their districts relating to the measure.
Mr. Carroll also confirmed that the Glendale Regional Project Plan will also be on the
October agenda.
8—Adjourn 7:15 PM
Ms. Finch motioned to adjourn the meeting; Ms. Pehrson seconded the motion. The
motion passed unanimously, and the September PNUT Board meeting was adjourned.
Webex Chat
to Aaron Wiley(privately): 5:39 PM
Aaron, I'm going to lower your hand, but feel free to raise it again if you have any questions.
from Millar,Tom to everyone: 5:44 PM
I should note that TAB deals with all transportation, and not just public transit.
from Bra Binnebose to everyone: 5:52 PM
I like where Ginger is going with this, it's a great opportunity to address moving people to this new facility safely and
through multiple modes. I'd like for our board to work with TAB on this and other projects
from Aaron Wiley 2 to everyone: 5:54 PM
Does that mean that this master plan needs to be updated to show safer access at one of stages?
from Allen, Luke to everyone: 5:54 PM
Thanks, Aaron, I'll bring that question up momentarily.
from Aaron Wiley 2 to everyone: 5:55 PM
Access to outdoor pools on the westside is important to the community.
from Aaron Wiley 2 to everyone: 5:58 PM
Within the plan how will you address lighting?
from Millar,Tom to everyone: 6:01 PM
Thanks, everyone. I've gotta take off. I look forward to next month.
from Murdock,Tyler to everyone: 6:02 PM
Page 15 of the Glendale Plan does discuss pedestrian crossings and need. If board members are looking to review that
section.
from Murdock,Tyler to everyone: 6:48 PM
2015
from Murdock,Tyler to everyone: 7:05 PM
Lawn signs are included in our consultants scope of work. I am not sure on the qty yet. We can update the board on how
many we will have.