9/19/2022 - Meeting Minutes SALT LAKE CITY
BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes of the September 19, 2022 Meeting
BAC Members Present for this meeting were Ashley Lodmell, Martin Cuma, and Sarah
Johnson.
BAC Members Electronically Present for this meeting were Greta Sommerfeld,Joshua
Poppel, Patrick Casey, and Rachel Manko.
BAC Members Absent for this meeting were Daniel Houpt, Gabriela Knudson, Matthew
Morriss, and Raymond Reynolds.
Also present were Amy Lyons, Dave Iltis, Lynn Jacobs, Ben Trueman, and Megan
Leether.
Also present electronically were Becka Roolf, Lara Handwerker,Julianne Sabula, and
Dan Dugan.
The meeting was held both electronically via WebEx and in person and was called to
order at 5:02 p.m.by Martin Cuma. Martin welcomed everyone and the Committee
members introduced themselves.
Approval of Minutes
Motion: Martin Cuma moved to approve the minutes of the August 15, 2022 meeting.
Sarah Johnson seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Public Comment— Martin had some comments for future discussion,the first being
that the driveways on 300 West are kind of high. The design looks great, the path looks
great,but the high driveways give you a good bump which can cause your tire to slide
sideways and he managed to crash his bike due to this. If he goes to Costco and loads
his bicycle with items,he's worried his bike will break if he hits that curb due to the
weight. He's wondering if someone from Engineering or whoever is designing these can
speak to the Committee about why this lip is necessary if it even is. The Walmart
driveway on 300 West doesn't have this so he would like to know if the contractor could
grind this off a little bit to eliminate broken rims and things on bikes. The second thing
he would like to discuss is what the city requires a contractor to do when they close a
bike lane due to construction. At the Sunnyside Avenue and Foothill Drive intersection
a contractor is doing some housing and there is no alternative path for bikes or pets.
When he has his bike trailer with his kids,he's forced into the car lanes to get through
the construction. One other thing he would like to bring up again is the traffic light
duration on State roads. In his opinion,they have excessive patterns of prioritizing
commuter traffic rather than local traffic and he was hoping someone from UDOT could
come talk about it. Lara apologized for not getting this on the agenda and asked if he
had specific intersections in mind as that would allow them to get more data for the
Committee. Martin said 500 South and Guardsman mostly but really all of them. Dave
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Iltis had several comments with the first being that this Committee has one of it's
spelled out duties being to pay attention to the CIP applications. They should be sure to
provide input next year and make sure it's on their schedule because the BAC and TAB
folks are supposed to give feedback so that the City Council will have that information to
how they want to vote and how the mayor's office wants to prioritize those projects. The
end thing is that he's previously brought up issues with the reconstruction of ioo South
and that the city broke their own Complete Streets Ordinance. They also, in his view,
broke the Utah Open Meetings Act by approving the design on ioo south and then
retroactively having a Complete Streets Committee meeting. He filed an official
complaint with the city that they clearly didn't read because their response was pretty
much nonsense. Now it's in front of Council,he's hopeful Council Member Dugan has
seen it. Supposedly there is a response from Council on this and there are some other
steps he'll take unless the city decides to do what they were supposed to in the first place
which is a road diet plus bike lanes on ioo South. It is a disaster, and the design didn't
do anything whatsoever to slow traffic or make it safer for pedestrians or bikes. The
next thing is 200 South, and he has put in several e-mails to Jon Larsen without
reasonable response. 200 South, in his view,has a very dangerous design for cyclists.
The bike lane weaves back and forth between cars and the bus lane. Basically,what they
will have will be parked cars, crossing the bike lane,trying to get out of the way of the
bus and curb side parking rather than having a curbside protected lane. It just doesn't
make sense as to what they did there, and they aren't building it yet so there's a chance
this Committee would want to review that and find out more about it. There are some
issues with a couple of blocks where the road slope is too much to put in curb side bike
lanes but that's only a couple of blocks along the entire stretch. Ultimately, it's a poor
design. The 300 West bike lane is fantastic all the way up to Home Depot and then it's a
disaster. Salt Lake and UDOT apparently couldn't come to terms with this, so the bike
path stops at Home Depot. You can't cross readily into South Salt Lake, and no one has
talked to SSL about continuing the bike lane so there are no marked lanes once you
cross 2100 South. The issue remains,how do you get from Home Depot to SSL. The
next issue, regarding Martin's driveway edge issue,this is a standard or something
within SLC. I brought this up several years ago and was told it was a great idea,but
nothing was done because if you don't have bigger tires, it can cause pinch flats and
Martin crashed on it. I'm sure other people have had issues too,they're not friendly for
bikes and that is probably merely a permitting issue to have driveways built in a
different fashion. The next item is blocked sidewalks and bike lanes downtown, Martin
brought this up with the new housing on Sunnyside and Foothill. The city met with a
committee, maybe the Disability Committee, but there continues to be problems with
sidewalks and bike lanes downtown that are blocked. Finally, I think as a result of that
meeting,the construction on Zoo East and 300 South now has pedestrian walkways but
the bike lane just sort of ends and you're hoisted into traffic. The one on 200 West is a
complete mess as is the one on 300 West and there's one around boo South and Main
that's awful for peds and bikes and this is a problem with permitting that's allowing this
to go through and allowing construction to start. I don't think this is transportation
issue but something in really broken in Salt Lake with that. The last think is, if you
haven't ridden Main Street, it's awesome,they did a great job with that. There are new
buffered bike lanes from 2100 South to 700 South. There is one problem now which is
that the speed limit there is still 3o and 35 despite the roadway redesign. SL's process
for speed limits and reconstruction paving projects does not exist,they're decoupled.
They build and fix the road first and then in the very distant future,like on Sunnyside
where they haven't done anything in the last year to change the speed limit so it's 40
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despite the fact that the street was redesigned to have better bike lanes and narrower car
lanes. Main street has the same issue, it should be 25,you could go in an afternoon and
change out the signs. I've e-mailed Jon Larsen and the Mayor and received responses
that essentially say we'll get around to it someday and that's not ok. It's a detail that
puts peoples lives in danger and maybe the Committee can call Transportation out and
ask what they are doing because Main Street should have had the signs changed during
construction. I hope transportation is listening to this and does something. Ben asked
if anyone knows if the new bike path on goo South that's off the street, is completed.
Martin said it is a long project and will be going on for several years. Ben said you
cannot bike on it because there are big holes and that's a problem. He comes from the
west side and used to bike on it almost every day. He takes a different route now
because on goo South there are no bike lanes and on the opposite the bike lane is
incomplete and it's unfortunate that it was done in this order. He's also curious to hear
if that the bike path is going to be plowed in the winter because if not, it's a loss of a bike
path for 3-4 months a year. Lara said as far as she's aware,the section that's already
complete is being plowed during the winter. There are ongoing discussions about the
resources needed by the Streets Division to increase the fleet numbers and people to
operate them and plow more bike lanes in the winter. She said this is something they
have been discussing internally all summer long, it's not just something they think about
in the winter.
Committee Announcements &Updates — Due to time constraints,
Announcements &Updates were postponed until the next scheduled meeting.
Council Member Dugan Introduction
Dan Dugan, SLC City Council
Council Member Dugan thanked the Committee for allowing him the opportunity to
attend their meeting. He and other Council members have the intention of joining
Committee meetings to get a pulse of the city from different angles. He thanked them
for all their work and said the city also has the vision to improve bicycling accessibility
and safety throughout the city and he would like to keep an open dialogue and voice on
how to make that vision a reality.
iioo East Reconstruction
Lynn Jacobs, SLC Transportation&Megan Leether, SLC Engineering
The city is basically rebuilding iioo East and Highland Drive from goo South to I-8o,
but it is such a big project,they had to break it into two pieces. One piece is from 1700
South to I-8o and the other is from there to goo South. Lynn said today they are
presenting on the 70% design of the northern piece which also runs through East
Liberty Park Community Council boundaries. They have presented quite a bit to them
and have received some really good feedback and he would love to have feedback from
the BAC as well. With this design,the city is doing some things they haven't done before
and want to make sure they aren't blind to any issues they hadn't thought of, so the
public input is very valuable. Megan and Lynn went over the details of the new design
and some of the challenges including the maintenance once it's completed. There was a
lot of discussion about the proposed design including the addition of more green paint
and eliminating a section of conflict between cars and bicycles. The construction
timeline on both parts of this project is to have completion by the end of 2024. Lynn's
e-mail address is lynnjacobs@slcgov.com if anyone has additional feedback or
questions.
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CIP Transportation Applications
Becka Roolf, SLC Transportation
Becka is presenting on the Transportation CIP applications that will be submitted
sometime in October. She explained the application, approval, funding process, and
timeline. It is important to have perspective from advisory committees, so she shared
the draft list of projects and sent a list of links to the members to help rank those
projects. Sarah would like a list of things like this, so nothing is forgotten. Lara said the
Chair could be the keeper of this document and Martin agreed to make and keep that
list.
BAC Member Roundtable Discussion
BAC Members&Lara Handwerker, SLC Transportation
Martin asked the Committee members if they had any suggestions for the next meeting
and there were none. Lara let everyone know that there will be another Mayor's Bike to
Work Day on September 28th starting at the 1700 South River Park around 7:3o a.m.
and heading to the City&County Building around 8 a.m. Martin brought up the timing
of reviewing CIP projects each year and Becka said they should really be done in
January or February.
Motion: Martin Cuma motioned to adjourn the meeting; Ashley Lodmell seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:36 p.m.
Approved by the Bicycle Advisory Committee 10-17-22.
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