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11/21/2022 - Meeting Minutes SALT LAKE CITY BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE Minutes of the November 21, 2022 Meeting BAC Members Present for this meeting were Greta Sommerfeld, Martin Cuma, Matthew Morriss, and Sarah Johnson. BAC Members Electronically Present for this meeting were Ashley Lodmell, Daniel Houpt, Joshua Poppel, Rachel Manko, and Raymond Reynolds. BAC Members Absent for this meeting were Gabriela Knudson and Patrick Casey. Also present were Ben Trueman, Lara McLellan, Dave Iltis, Matt Jevtic, and Jon Larsen. Also present electronically were Amy Lyons,Jenn Diederich, Julianne Sabula, Tiffany Pocock, Dan Adams, Clint Campbell, and Joe Taylor. The meeting was held both electronically via WebEx and in person and was called to order at 5:01 p.m. by Martin Cuma. Martin welcomed everyone and the Committee members introduced themselves. Approval of Minutes Motion: Sarah Johnson moved to approve the minutes of the October 17, 2022 meeting. Greta Sommerfeld seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Public Comment— Dave Iltis has been working on trying to convince This Is the Place State Park to open a connector trail between Sunnyside and Research Park. The trail is all there but the gate is locked but people still go around the gate. He sent an e-mail to the State Director of Parks and received a response that they can't do this because having the gates and trail open would lead to more vandalism. Dave said this is opposite of what studies say so he e-mailed again with that information, letting him know that there is a new program by the Governor to have more paved trails and asking for a meeting, but he hasn't received a response yet. He thought it would be helpful for the BAC to write a letter of support for opening that gate. It makes sense because the Sunnyside Trail terminates right at the entrance of the park and with that trail, people can get to Research Park without dealing with car traffic. Dave said it would need a different sign and maybe bollards to keep cars from driving through but it would be a good way to get places without using or interacting with cars. Martin said they want to keep looking at opening connectors. Dave said the park has some outdated ideas that having this closed is going to prevent vandalism rather than having people go through. Martin clarified that this is Dave's own initiative and he's looking for BAC endorsement and Dave said that is correct. Martin said they should look at this as an agenda item in a future meeting. He said he knows the area, and this is a reasonable request. Dave said that since UTA is going to be here, it would be really nice to have them endorse 10-foot lanes instead of 11-foot lanes which harms bicyclists and pedestrians. His understanding is that the reason they don't end up with 10-foot lanes is solely because of Page 1 of 4 TAB/BAC 11-21-2022 Minutes UTA. Since Clint Campbell is going to be here, it would be great to ask him why as it's a hindrance to a safe city. Ben Trueman asked if the BAC advertises,he's been in the city for years and had no idea they existed. He wanted to know if it would be possible to advertise in a newspaper or something for the purpose of getting more members or involvement and letting people who bike in the city know they are there. Sarah said she also appreciates that suggestion as she didn't know for several years and agrees they could use more visibility. Lara said they are always open to new ways to advertise the Committee. Martin came up with a few marketing ideas. Dave said there is an e-mail list where things are sent out,but he doesn't know how people sign up. Lara talked a bit about what she has done up to now and said after the next round of Council approvals, the Committee will be full. Martin said it would be good to share at all Transportation outreach events with a sticker or something. Ben asked about debris in bike lanes as he's encountered some debris that has been there for about a month. There was some discussion about the effectiveness of the mobile app, and he was told he can always call Transportation and they'll help figure out the responsible party to clean up the debris. Dave Iltis said on 1300 East and 2000 South,there is a huge sign in the bike lane. He's reported it on the app twice and it's still there. He's frustrated because it pushes bikes into the traffic which is dangerous. Martin said this is a topic they need to discuss sometime in a longer discussion, and they'll keep trying to tackle this. There should be better education of the contractors. Lara said they do tell them when they get their permits and Jon said the city is talking about getting another inspector for these things as they're stretched thin. Dave said there has been a change to the app and the history is gone. Committee Announcements &Updates — Martin asked if the Committee wanted to have the December BAC meeting and if so,when. There was a quorum of Committee members who said they would be available so the December meeting will be held on its scheduled day. In an e-mail prior to the meeting, Dave Iltis told Martin that there was a change in the BAC website at some point. There used to be a mission statement and now it's gone. Lara will send the members the mission statement so they can decide at a future meeting if they want it included on their website. Dave Iltis said if it isn't included soon, at some point no one will remember it exists. I-15 Environmental Impact Statement Tiffany Pocock, UDOT&Dan Adams, Horrocks Engineers UDOT began a study about a year ago on I-15 beginning in SLC and going up to Farmington and US-89. After some input, they are at the alternatives phase and once they're done with the alternatives phase, they will do some refinement and the alternatives could change based off the input they receive. Tiffany went over some of the input that has been received so far. This included wanting them to really think about all users and that I-15 should be a connection, not a barrier. She would really love to hear from the Committee if they have additional input. They can be reached at 385-220- 5797, ii5eis(&utah.gov,www.ii5eis.udot.utah.gov, or on their Facebook group which is udotii5eis. The alternatives were released November loth and are now on their website. She went over the type of public comment they are looking for which includes improved safety,better connection to communities, strengthening the economy, and improved mobility for all users. She also went over some of the information that can be found on the website. Sarah stated her concerns about how increasing or adding lanes increases demand, which may not reduce travel time, and that just leads to more interstate. Personally, she would like to see ways they can incorporate more alternative Page 2 of 4 TAB/BAC 11-21-2022 Minutes transportation rather than adding more lanes to accommodate more cars. Tiffany said that as part of the bigger plan, they are adding double tracking front runner electrification to reduce those times from Davis County to Salt Lake County. Martin asked how they come up with their travel times since that is what's determining how many lanes there will be. Tiffany said they use a travel demand model and explained how that works and that is the best tool currently available. Martin asked what the probability of the travel times being what the travel demand model is forecasting as it also depends on people and how technologies are going to change in the future. Sarah said the direction this project goes will be a big influence on the community. Tiffany said this is part of a very big planning process and all modes of travel need to be successful. She went over some additional information from the website for specific areas of the study and said these are just ideas and they really want to hear feedback from the Committee and the public. Martin reviewed the plan and shared some of his feedback and Tiffany said they are working with SLC to address some of his concerns. UTA Updates Clint Campbell, Utah Transit Authority UTA is developing an Active Transportation Plan which they are referring to as the AT3P plan. It's the first time UTA has done an Active Transportation Plan along with their Long Range Transit Plan. The Long Range Plan is their guiding document that works within the regional transportation plans. They have a good direction as to where they want to go in the next 30-50 years so the AT3P plan is a component of the Long Range Plan that makes sure they're also supporting active transportation. Transit and active transportation go hand in hand and they are using this plan to identify some major gaps within their network and prioritize improvements, to develop a system wide plan for this. They are also looking at equity because often communities that rely on transit, are also relying on active transportation. He went over the results from a public poll they did on transit users and showed pictures of example areas that aren't very hospitable to active transportation. They are also looking at safety factors and what they can do to safely mitigate this,whether it be moving a bus stop or finding a new crossing point. Clint went over the plan goals and a lot of the plan involves talking to community members and groups such as the BAC. He talked about their planning process within their internal working group and some of the guiding UTA polices, studies, and plans. He can be reached at cicampbell(&rideuta.com. Ashley said when she rides UTA, the bike train is often packed and when there is only one bike train, it can be pretty brutal. She asked if there are ways to get more bike trains. Clint said that is something they are working on and looking at options and new systems for getting more bikes on the trains. Dave Iltis said his understanding is that one of the hindrances UTA puts out for active transportation networks is the continued insistence on ii foot travel lanes. He said that leaves less room for bike lanes on a number of streets and if UTA is making an Active Transportation Plan, how are they addressing that and are they going to accept io foot travel lanes or even 9 foot. Clint said that's an interesting point and isn't something they have necessarily talked about because ii foot lanes are kind of their standard. He asked for some examples and Dave gave several. Clint said that is great feedback and understands what he means. He will bring it up and also finds it interesting that NY is running 9-foot lanes which he will look into. Sometimes 1-2 foot of an ii foot lane is actually gutter space which can be problematic but the ii foot lanes are mostly for maneuverability. The Active Transportation Plan will have its own website with an interactive map. Matt asked if all the busses have bike racks and Clint said about 99% of Page 3 of 4 TAB/BAC 11-21-2022 Minutes them have a 2 rack on them and some have a 3 rack. UTA policy does state that if the racks are full, riders are welcome to bring their bike on the bus if there is space. 2100 South Project Letter of Support BAC Members Martin gave a brief summary of a planned letter of support for the 2100 South Project and said the Committee will discuss it at their next meeting. Transportation Master Plan Update Joe Taylor, SLC Transportation Joe said the Transportation Master Plan is a policy document for how the City uses streets, not a list of projects. A Community Advisory Committee of nine citizens who live in SLC has been formed and they review all of the documents as well as weigh in on public outreach. Joe went over the timeline and that they hope to have a plan completed in the spring. He went over the public engagement and feedback received so far. Transportation is trying to streamline with other City Divisions to do a better job of lining up their projects. He went over the policy topics which included active transportation, safety, curb space management, sustainability, and air quality as well as a multitude of others. Joe would love feedback from this Committee especially on what metrics they think the City should be measuring. Feedback can be given at https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-studies/tmp/ or directly to Joe at joe.taylorPslcgov.com. There was discussion regarding different classes of e-bikes and what regulations should be put in place as far as where they are allowed to operate. Motion: Martin Cuma motioned to adjourn the meeting; Matthew Morriss seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:35 p.m. Meeting Chat from Ray Reynolds to everyone: 5:36 PM It's been shown in many cities most notably, Dallas Tx, that highway expansion does not help with traffic long term. from Martin Cuma to everyone: 5:57 PM Ray, sorry for missing your comment. The I-15 EIS page is https://il5eis.udot.utah.gov/ and contact information is there. Approved by the Bicycle Advisory Committee 12-19-22. Page 4 of 4 TAB/BAC 11-21-2022 Minutes