1/5/2023 - Meeting Minutes (3) PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRY AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
Formal Meeting
Thursday,January 5,2023
5:00 P.M.—9:15 P.M.
Join at Memory Grove Memorial House: 375 N Canyon Road,Salt Lake City,UT 84103
Approved Minutes
1—Convening the Meeting 5:00 PM
Call to order
— Phil Carroll
— Clayton Scrivner
— Ginger Cannon
— Samantha Finch
— Aaron Wiley
— CJ Whittaker
— Brianna Binnebose
— Melanie Pehrson
— Jenny Hewson
— Meridith Benally
Chair comments 5 mins
Chair Binnebose thanked the Board for committing time for this retreat to take a
deeper dive into some housekeeping and procedural items to help run 2023 run
smoothly. As well as create the opportunity for subcommittees to set their action
items for the year.
2—Public Comment Period 5:05 PM
Verbal comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes; 15 minutes total. Written 15 mins
comments are welcome.
No public comments.
3—Action Items 5:20 PM
Approve December 1, 2022, meeting minutes. 5 mins
Ms.Ashlyn Larsen, Public Lands staff member, updated some comments made by Ms.
Finch for the December 1, 2022, meeting minutes. Ms. Cannon made a motion to
approve the previous meeting minutes. Ms. Finch seconded the motion. Board
unanimously approved the meeting minutes.
Chair and Vice Chair Election. 5 mins
Ms. Binnebose reminded everyone the vote would take place via paper ballot.The
members nominated for chair are:
— Brianna Binnebose
— Ginger Cannon
Board members nominated for vice-chair are:
— Clayton Scrivner
— Melanie Pehrson
— Jenny Hewson
Mr.Allen reviewed the procedures in the event of a tie with nine Board members
present.There must be a majority vote. With nine members present,there shouldn't
be an issue with the chair position, but for the vice-chair,they could run into a three-
way tie.There are two options if there is a tie: waiting for February to vote for a vice-
chair or doing another round of voting this evening. Ms. Cannon asked if Ms. Benally
was going to be there. Mr. Luke Allen, Public Lands staff member, confirmed she would
be there but late. Ms. Cannon asked if the Board could postpone voting until Ms.
Benally arrived. Ms. Binnebose agreed.The rest of the Board agreed.
4—Staff Discussion and Agenda Items 5:30 PM
Reimagine Nature Review Discussion 30 mins
Ms. Katherine Maus, Public Lands staff member, presented the Reimagine Nature
Master Plan. Ms. Maus used a slide projector to share the presentation. All Board
members had a physical copy of the Master Plan. Ms. Maus introduced herself as a city
planner, explained her role, and thanked the Board for letting her present to them
tonight. Ms. Maus did a high-level overview of the Master Plan and how it is a guide
for Salt Lake City to follow for the next 20 years.
Ms. Maus shared the inventory of all the types of land Public Lands cares for, such as
natural lands, the foothill areas, urban forestry, golf courses,trails, parks, RAC, and the
cemetery. Ms. Maus explained how Public Lands completed a Needs Assessment in
2019 to help guide Public Lands to determine how to utilize these spaces to best
prioritize and serve the community as Salt Lake City continues to grow. Ms. Maus
explained how Public Lands managed the community engagement process, like
participating with colleges,to administer in-person and digital outreach attempts.
More community engagement details can be found on page 19 of the Master Plan.
The plan is centered around three major goals: Sustain, Connect, Welcome, Protect,
and Grow; 10 Transformative Projects; and a Set of Actionable Strategies.Themes of
Equity, Livability, and Stewardship are values woven throughout the plan. Ms. Maus
further defined "Sustain, Connect,Welcome, Protect and Grow" within the Master
Plan. Ms. Maus explained how the 10 Transformative Projects, all achieve one or
multiple areas of"Sustain, Connect,Welcome, Protect, and Grow".
Mr. Whittaker asked what"increase the provision of green space" means. Ms. Maus
stated it's three-fold: increasing acreage of green space downtown, increasing the
effectiveness of current green spaces that are underutilized and being creative about
how you look at green spaces. Ms. Maus shared the example of exploring how the
'right-away' can increase green space downtown. Ms. Maus asked if there were any
additional questions. Ms. Pehrson said she would save her questions for the end. Ms.
Maus shared how Pioneer Park is one of the more under-utilized green spaces
downtown, and they are currently ongoing some projects to improve the use of that
space. Ms. Maus continued to share how Public Lands plans to be creative with their
green spaces, like in golf.
Ms. Maus asked Board members to turn to Chapter 8 of the Master Plan. She
explained this section is the action strategies section and defines the steps that will be
taken to achieve the three major goals of the Master Plan. Ms. Maus shared there will
be some plans within the Master Plan that the Board will be involved in so she invited
them to take a deeper dive into Chapter 8. Ms. Maus explained that from this Master
Plan, Public Lands can begin creating a strategic 5-year plan to implement and
prioritize all the goals and projects listed within the Master Plan. Ms. Maus opened the
floor for the Board's questions.
Ms. Pehrson asked if the levels of services around the 94 acres needed in parks to
sustain Salt Lake's growth include or exclude properties that are already obtained or
not developed,for example, Glendale. Ms. Kristin Riker, Public Lands Director, said
Glendale, Allen Park, and Fleet Block take from the 94 acres; this totals 27 acres.The
94 acres were determined with the Needs Assessment in 2017, and Public Lands didn't
have those things then. Ms. Maus also shared that some parcels in Public Land's
inventory are not developed and publicly accessible and are not counted towards the
94 acres, such as the 200 West Urban Farm, which is funded.
Ms. Pehrson asked if there will be a higher priority to updating the bilingual signage in
high-use bilingual areas. Ms. Maus explained there are two outstanding projects
regarding signage in high-use bilingual areas. One has funded 10 parks that have been
selected based on size, amenities, and signage for navigation. Applications are in for an
additional 10 parks updating signage.Those parks have not been determined, but are
recommended based on the same criteria for the other 10 parks that were funded. Ms.
Maus said more information would be shared come fall 2023. Ms. Riker shared that
any new projects would have the bilingual language standard. Ms. Pehrson asked if the
bilingual signage is officially now the standard practice. Ms. Maus said it's nearly
formalized.
Ms. Pehrson asked if there would be a Public Lands employee who manages the
"Coming Soon Near You" program and those partnerships. Ms. Maus shared there are
specific action strategies that determine Public Lands policies and staff. Public Lands
currently has a programming partnership management employee,Van Hoover, but
there are other initiatives. Ms. Riker said the City had a recreation component at some
point and got rid of it several years ago. As Public Lands brings on new parks,they have
asked for new programming directors for specifics. Council denied that request, but
Public Lands will continue to ask. It is in the Master Plan to have a full-time
programming director for the Glendale facility. However, it is not in the budget or
portfolio currently.
Ms. Pehrson asked if a county person could oversee it. Ms. Riker explained the county
does a lot of recreation programs, like sports.They run those facilities and leagues
within the city for Public Lands. Mr.Allen shared that Park Rangers would be involved
to some degree, as well. Mr. Scrivner asked if the Master Plan addresses the
relationship between Public Lands and Salt Lake County or if REC was left off the table.
Ms. Riker said REC was left off the table. Ms. Riker explained that the "Welcome"goal
addresses activating parks, Public Lands has focused on building relationships and
having stakeholder groups that activate their parks. For example, Liberty Park is very
active, and the City permits people to use that space. Mr. Scrivner shared that the
County is the same way.They rely on community-based programs and areas to run
parks. Ms. Riker pitched to the Mayor that if you were an established group with Public
Lands,you could apply for a $1,000 grant to activate a park. It encourages the
community to help run the park. Ms. Pehrson shared that this is especially relevant for
Glendale.
Ms. Pehrson asked if there were any partnerships with developers for downtown. Ms.
Riker said there is an impact fee when they do residential development. She explained
they have tried to work with developers, but it hasn't quite worked.This is something
that is on economic development's radar. Ms. Riker shared they have pitched a few of
Public Land's 2023 goals to the Mayor on ways for Public Lands to build up
partnerships. Ms. Pehrson commented on how amazing the Master Plan document is
and how proud she is of Salt Lake City. Ms. Cannon expressed she's proud of the Board
and the work they've done to help make this happen and their input. Ms. Riker shared
reviewing the Master Plan is something that could be done once a year at the retreat.
Ms. Cannon asked: how actionable items in Chapter 8 of the Master Plan will be
accomplished, how that will be reported publicly and to the Board, how will progress
be tracked, and whether will it be a part of the five-year strategic plan. Ms. Riker said
after five years they will do an update as needed. Mr.Allen shared the plan is to
update some of the metrics for the annual report for general things and items part of
the Master Plan.
Mr. Wiley asked if the City is the one doing the work for these projects and building
the parks. Ms. Maus said the City will. She explained that there are many action
strategies for implementing the Master Plan, and goals are directed at the Public Lands
Department and Board. It is a document to hold everyone accountable for the actions
we committed to taking.A lot of the projects deal with collaboration with other
divisions, departments, and outside the organization, but it is all driven by the Public
Lands department. Mr.Wiley asked for clarity on who is building the project, for
example, on a slide. Ms. Maus explained that the planning team works with the
community to determine the needs. Public Lands then submits an internal request to
City Council, and they allocate funds out of the city budget. Public Lands has been
exploring external opportunities for funding projects. Mr. Wiley asked for clarity on if
Public Lands has a team that then builds the slide. Ms. Maus explained that it depends
on the project and if it's something that they can take on as a department can take on,
the size and scale of the project. Ms. Riker also explained projects done by the Public
Lands team are based on staff capacity. Ms. Riker further explained Public Lands' role
is to maintain the parks while planning should oversee what else does park need, how
we can improve upon it, and planning oversight. Mr. Wiley asked how as a staff they
determine where to start and what to focus on. Ms. Maus explained the five-year
strategic plan and CIP process will be a good starting part for building that criterion.
Mr. Whittaker asked what Public Lands is doing to help individuals from the West side
get to these outdoor recreational activities access points and trailheads. He shared
that UTA doesn't seem to be very cooperative with outdoor recreational sports. He
asked if it was possible to get UTA stops near these trailheads. Ms. Cannon explained
unfortunately, Public Lands doesn't have the funding, and it's on the public to put
pressure on UTA to add additional stops for public use. Ms. Cannon also shared the
Board can put pressure on the Transportation Advisory Board to adhere to the public's
needs. Board continued to discuss UTA.
Mr. Millar, Public Lands staff member, shared they are working with UTA when lane
usage changes, like when a business location changes and UTA changes routes. Mr.
Millar further explained Public Lands staff is working on keeping their websites up to
date with information on how to access public spaces with public transportation, as
well as, increasing awareness and usage around the public transit app. Mr. Millar
shared that UTA is a fully public organization, not private. Ms. Maus said the Master
Plan had heavy involvement from almost every division and department. Some of the
strategies loosely hold divisions and departments accountable to do some work,too.
Mr. Scrivner shared, based on Ms. Maus' comment, that the City is better off ensuring
that the Bike Plan gets implemented with this stuff, and you can feel safe getting your
mountain bike to the trailhead rather than waiting for UTA to step up with mass
transit. Ms. Riker shared that the City has been looking at Fleet Block and needing
three acres on the corner for a park, but because of the Master Plan,they are bound
to make it happen. Ms. Maus thanked everyone on the Board for their support.
Ms. Binnebose asked if the Board would like to take a break for dinner or soldier on
with the rest of the agenda items. Mr. Whittaker and Ms. Binnebose would like to
solider on.The rest of the Board agreed. The Board did take a brief break to eat dinner.
5—Chair and Vice-Chair Election Action Items 6:00 PM
Ms. Binnebose asked Ms. Larsen to introduce herself and review the election 10 mins
procedures. Ms. Larsen shared her background before coming to Public Lands working
in the financial sector as a Financial Coach for a non-profit organization. She is very
excited to join the Public Lands team and help support the Board. She will also be
helping with the internal Employee Advisory Board within Public Lands focusing on
employee recognition. Ms. Larsen handed out paper ballots for the chair and vice-chair
election. She reviewed the election procedure again in the event of a tie: they can
either re-vote or wait until the next meeting. Ms. Binnebose stated that per the
bylaws, "The current chair shall solicit two members of the Board who are neither
officers nor a nominee to conduct the vote and count ballots." Ms. Binnebose asked
Ms. Finch and Mr. Wiley to count the ballots. Ms. Hewson asked if members could vote
for themselves. Mr. Scrivner said yes. Mr. Wiley and Ms. Finch each counted for chair
and vice-chair to confirm the ballot count.
Mr. Wiley shared the chair votes. Ms. Binnebose was elected chair.
Ms. Finch shared the vice-chair votes. Since there is a Board of 11,the vice-chair needs
to have at least six votes to be nominated. Mr. Allen shared that the Board is now 10
as Ms. Ngo resigned from the Board the day prior.The member with the highest votes
for vice-chair had five in the count. Ms. Finch suggested dropping the member with the
lowest vote count and voting again.The Board agreed. The two new vice-chair
nominations are Ms. Pehrson and Mr. Scrivner. Ms. Larsen passed out new ballot
forms with Ms. Pehrson and Mr. Scrivner on the ballot. Mr. Wiley and Ms. Finch
recounted the ballots. After the recount, Mr. Scrivner was elected vice-chair.
6—Board Discussion and Action Items 6:20 PM
Review Bylaws. Discuss Board Member Responsibilities and Subcommittee I 40 mins
requirements.
Ms. Binnebose explained the purpose of this discussion was for the Board to have a
chance to review their Bylaws and allow for subcommittees to review subcommittee
requirements. Ms. Binnebose asked the Bylaws subcommittee if they had anything
they'd like to share or if it should just be an informal, open discussion.The Board
members all had a paper copy of the Bylaws. Ms. Cannon referenced page five of the
bylaws and reiterated the Bylaws were written for the Board. She reminded the Board
that subcommittees are allowed to be formed and should be presented to the chair for
approval with the following details (referenced Bylaws bullet points): Committee Type,
Committee Membership, Work Objective,Timeline, and Committee Reporting.Any
new subcommittee formations should be on the agenda. Ms. Cannon explained that
work gets done on boards through subcommittees. Mr. Whittaker asked for clarity on
the Board Chair establishing a subcommittee versus a Board member establishing a
subcommittee. Ms. Cannon explained that sometimes the Chair is aware of things in
advance and that they may have some insights on opportunities for subcommittees to
form. Mr. Whittaker shared that he feels like the Bylaws read as though the Chair can
create a subcommittee without bringing it to the Board. Ms. Cannon said it's
something that could be modified. Ms. Finch added that this subsection on
subcommittees could be further flushed out after their experiences with
subcommittees now being formed and work being done outside of the Board. Ms.
Finch proposed that the subcommittee section be removed from the Board Member
Responsibilities section and be its own section within the Bylaws. She offered some
suggestions for how this new section could be written.
Mr. Whittaker shared he felt it could be challenging to meet the Board Member
Responsibilities of serving on a minimum of one subcommittee each year, especially
since there are currently only two active subcommittees. Ms. Cannon shared it's not
hard if you are doing your work on the subcommittee. She referenced the new Board
member packet and newly appointed members are given an outline of their
responsibilities. Mr. Whittaker stated he feels there are not enough subcommittees
established for Board members to join. Ms. Binnebose stated there are three
subcommittees: communications,trails, and 501c3. Mr. Whittaker asked if everyone
on the Board was involved with a subcommittee. Ms. Cannon said there are technically
no subcommittees formed since none of the subcommittees submitted their official
request as stated by the Bylaws to the Board. Ms. Finch asked if it was written or
verbal. Mr. Whittaker referenced his submission for a subcommittee during the
November 2021 meeting. He said they are updating their written document via what
the Bylaws state. Ms. Finch said they could refine the section under Board Member
Responsibilities for Board members participating on an active subcommittee. Board
continued discussing details and responsibilities around subcommittees.
Ms. Finch referenced City code 2.9 involving Boards and Commissions. She shared that
under City ordinance 2.07.13 for all Boards within the City, committees (subcommittee
under PNUT) may include non-board members. However, it's a further opportunity for
the Board to refine how they want to permit non-board members. Ms. Cannon said
some subcommittees will involve an expert, and while they are not part of the
decision-making process, they are there to provide information for the final product.
She likes the idea of having other points of view to enhance the work a subcommittee
is doing, and,what she worries about, is those folks who aren't PNUT members. Ms.
Pehrson addressed the concern of them advocating for only certain types of groups.
Mr. Whittaker shared the examples of the Arts Council and Design Board.They have
subject matter experts or they are on other related boards. Mr. Whittaker went on to
express that Eric Edelman is their subject matter expert for the trails subcommittee.
He feels they are integral as voting members because of their expertise. He used the
example of fundraising down on the Arts Council allowed for a lot of work to be done
for that board. Ms. Hewson agreed that having an expert on a subcommittee is crucial.
Her concern is whether they are a voting member. She finds this to be problematic and
inclusive to have one subject matter expert when there could be others out there. She
feels the trails subcommittee could be better defined as a working group, and as a
working group,they should engage with other stakeholder representatives to make
sure it is more holistic. If the trails subcommittee continues forward under its current
conditions, Ms. Hewson feels she cannot participate in that subcommittee any longer.
Mr. Whittaker shared Ms. Hewson can invite another subject matter expert. Ms.
Cannon said she feels like this conversation is getting into the weeds and to circle back
to the purpose of this discussion for subcommittees:to better define their
subcommittee outlines.
Ms. Cannon expressed that she doesn't understand the scope of work the trails
subcommittee is doing and asked for someone to share. Ms. Hewson reminded
everyone that the Bylaws were written before the formation of the trails
subcommittee.They should take this opportunity to flush out some of these points in
the Bylaws and further attribute subcommittee expectations. Mr. Whittaker continued
to share about the trails subcommittee. Ms. Finch said she felt like they were getting
into the weeds of the trails subcommittee, and that the Board did vote to have the
subcommittee be in existence.The larger issue now is the concerns of non-board
members on subcommittees. She would like some high-level guidelines to be on a
subcommittee. She suggested the idea every four months, subcommittees come to the
Board for a full vote again for affirmation and confirmation from the whole PNUT
Board, as well as, rotating Board members on subcommittees. She would like more
authority as a PNUT Board member over subcommittees and approve non-Board
members. Board continued to discuss the trails subcommittee. Ms. Benally reminded
the Board they can utilize an ex officio as an expert for a subcommittee. She suggested
utilizing the 501c3 subcommittee to answer any additional questions a member may
have to partner with an expert. Board reviewed the 2.90 City code again for Boards &
Commissions. Board continued to discuss details around their Bylaws.
Ms. Pehrson proposed they create a file-sharing system where the Board and
subcommittees can share their work for everyone on the Board to review. Ms. Cannon
stated they can establish this on their own without staff.The Board currently utilizes
Google. Ms. Binnebose proposed each subcommittee define its guidelines per the
bylaws. She said the bylaws subcommittee could reform to add a bullet point for
subcommittees to identify specific deliverables and define a working group versus a
subcommittee, using an ex officio member as an expert. The goal is to establish a
framework where it doesn't matter what the trails subcommittee looks like in five
years, but better a better framework for forming new subcommittees. Ms. Cannon
asked Ms. Binnebose to confirm if she wants the subcommittees to type up their
subcommittee details per the bylaws to submit in the next meeting. Ms. Binnebose
confirmed yes. Ms. Binnebose suggests that having all this typed out for everyone to
have access to and review, could speed up board meetings, and everyone would
understand what's happening on each subcommittee.The Board discussed possible
updates to the Bylaws, how to incorporate Public Lands staff, and other expectations.
Mr. Wiley inquired about the purpose of a subcommittee. Ms. Cannon explained how
subcommittees worked.
Mr. Wiley asked how the subcommittees impact staff. Mr. Whittaker shared an
example of dog policy and how they research to advise staff. Ms. Riker shared an
example of dogs being off-leash and a stakeholder committee/group formed, and they
selected different people from different stakeholder groups and staff to attend.Then
as a group,they decided what the recommendation should be to the City. She also
used the example of the Bike Park on "I" street and how they selected a group of
people to discuss further. She shared that some things may be bigger than a
subcommittee, and it doesn't just affect the Public Lands Department. Her
recommendation would be for the Board to suggest a stakeholder group form for
larger projects, like the example with e-bikes. Mr. Whittaker asked if the Board could
write a letter proposing a stakeholder group. Ms. Cannon added that as a
subcommittee, they could do the research around e-bike policies and share that.This
would help staff and inform the stakeholder group about bigger policy decisions. Ms.
Riker expressed that dogs in the Foothills and e-bikes are bigger than the PNUT Board,
but subcommittees could help by researching to feed that to a larger stakeholder
group. Board continued to discuss how subcommittees can help Public Lands tackle
issues around these examples given and further discussed how subcommittees form.
The Board discussed how the staff will use the PNUT Board as a sounding board.
Mr. Whittaker shared how Tyler Fonarow, Public Lands Recreational Trails Manager,
presented to the trails subcommittee ideas for some trail alignments to get their
feedback. Mr. Scrivner asked if that meeting's discussion should have come to the rest
of the Board. Mr. Whittaker expressed that if the rest of the Board had been a part of
that presentation, getting everyone's feedback would've caused the meeting to run
long, and it takes away the work the trails subcommittee is doing and puts it back on
the PNUT Board. Ms. Cannon reiterated this is why it's important to define your scope
of work and present it to the full Board for approval. Mr. Whittaker agreed.
Mr. Carroll shared he came to be on the Board with the biggest issue in his mind with
trails is e-bikes. He is hearing tonight it might be too big of an issue for the PNUT Board
or trails subcommittee to tackle, and it needs to be a part of a bigger agenda for the
City-sponsored group. He feels it's hard to break into the agenda for meetings. Mr.
Scrivner brought up that they have a subcommittee section on the agenda. Mr.
Whittaker said he may want to present something that could take 90 minutes, and he
asked if that was the time to do so. Mr. Carroll was also concerned as it sounds like, to
him,the trails subcommittee isn't an official subcommittee. Ms. Finch reaffirmed
that's not what the Board is saying. Ms. Finch went on to ask if Board and non-Board
members have been on a subcommittee for over a year now and if is it time to switch
people out. Mr. Carroll asked how the Board would determine who would be a good or
bad expert to bring onto a subcommittee. Mr. Whittaker added the question of how
the Board determines how long an expert can participate on a subcommittee. Board
continued to discuss the trails subcommittee and how they would like to see a revised
subcommittee with better-defined outlines per subcommittee bylaws. Ms. Hewson
believes the trails issue is bigger than a subcommittee. She thinks it needs a working
group where they bring in subject matter experts, and however well-intentioned the
trails subcommittee members are,they are not covering all the bases. She fully
recognizes that subcommittee member Eric Edelman is an expert, but he can't be an
expert in everything. She thinks a subcommittee has to be specific and targeted with
these concrete outcomes and time defined. She feels the topic of the Foothills is
broader. Mr. Whittaker added he has been on other City boards he's been involved in
and has had standing committees that have no timeline because the nature of the
project doesn't have a timeline.
Ms. Riker brought up they should address Mr. Carroll's concern about not being able to
get a topic onto the agenda. Even if it's a massive thing, like e-bikes, it should be
brought to this Board to discuss. Sometimes when they have a massive thing, like their
Master Plan, it's too big for even their department to deal with.They then put in a CIP
request and ask a consultant to help them develop that.They'll talk to City Council and
do public engagement and other groups involved to do a lot of that work. Public Lands
is still involved in it just like the Board was with the Master Plan, but it's so big that
can't be tackled. Ms. Cannon brought up that every month she gets an email asking
what she wants on the agenda. Ms. Cannon invited Mr. Carroll to put in his request
then. Ms. Finch spoke about her time as a chair and requested agenda topics from
Board members. Ms. Riker said she is aware that Public Lands staff have taken a lot of
their time to discuss certain topics, like CIP. Ms. Benally brought up their Bylaws and if
a member wants an amendment,they need to do it in writing.That would clarify what
questions they have and how the Board will address them. She continued to say it's
important for subcommittees to define those subcommittee bullet points, as after 2-3
hours of work,those subject matter experts may start charging a fee.
Mr. Wiley agreed with Mr. Carroll that he doesn't know when to bring up issues
happening in his community. Ms. Binnebose said it should be brought up during the
"Board Comment" period and that it is a standing agenda item. In reference to Ms.
Finch's point, "Request for future agenda items",these are standing agenda items
where Board members should speak up to share what's happening in their
communities and this is what you want on the agenda. Mr. Wiley shared that as a new
member, he didn't know that was the appropriate place or time to bring up his issues
and concerns. Ms. Binnebose asked if this is an onboarding issue for new members and
if they should sit down with staff or the chair, go through line-by-line on-standing
agenda items, and explain what each item means. Ms. Riker shared that now that Ms.
Larsen is in the role of department liaison, she could do a first stab at what an
onboarding process looks like and bring it to the Board for feedback. Ms. Riker added it
might be helpful to rearrange the agenda items. Ms. Pehrson asked if there could be a
subcommittee for onboarding.
Mr. Carroll asked how they are going to reestablish the Bylaws. Ms. Cannon made a
motion to reestablish the bylaws subcommittee to update subcommittee five bullet
point requirements. Mr. Carroll seconded the motion. Ms. Cannon, Ms. Finch, and Mr.
Wiley would be members of the bylaws subcommittee. Ms. Hewson asked when the
Board would have the opportunity to provide comments on the updated Bylaws. Ms.
Cannon said with the re-establishment of the bylaws subcommittee,they would bring
by the next Board meeting,the items in the Bylaws that indicate what they are
supposed to do and that will include a timeline.To add to Ms. Hewson's question, Mr.
Wiley asked where they can give additional feedback on changes. Ms. Cannon said
they would have a Google folder that everyone can review and see by the next Board
meeting. Ms. Hewson said she is concerned about when they can provide feedback
and how soon the bylaws subcommittee wants that information. Ms. Finch said once
they come out with a first draft,they can share it before the next Board meeting for
members to review. Board discussed further details on a shared Google folder and
drive. Board voted on Ms. Cannon's proposal to reestablish the bylaws subcommittee
to update the Bylaws.The vote carried unanimously. Ms. Binnebose summarized the
action items for the Board, and subcommittees, and updated the Bylaws.A Google
folder will be shared with everyone to more easily track and review what current
subcommittees are working on and give feedback on amending the Bylaws. Ms.
Binnebose would like to table this discussion.
7—Break 7:00 PM
8—Board Discussion and Action Items Continued 7:15 PM
Discussion of board powers, duties, and values. 60 mins
Ms. Binnebose said this section is similar to their discussion on Bylaws. Ms. Binnebose
mentioned Mr. Carroll had mentioned values and passions as it pertains to the Board.
Mr. Carroll said where that had come from was when Mr. Wiley was talking about
recreational use before CIP. He shared how recreational sports are a big part of his life.
He went on to say that when they went to rank the CIP items, recreational projects
were at the top of his list because of his passion for recreational sports. Knowing
people's passions and where they are on the Board is important to him. He appreciates
all the Board members'viewpoints and wants to be able to honor those and better
understand them.
Ms. Finch asked if they would like to discuss the Powers and Duties section. Ms.
Binnebose explained this discussion is a refresher of what their Powers and Duties are
within the Board and to bring that energy to what they can do. Ms. Binnebose
acknowledged Mr. Carroll's statement. Ms. Finch encouraged members to familiarize
themselves, read, and reflect on them as this defines their responsibilities as Board
members and whether they are doing everything they can as a Board.The Board had a
paper copy of these Powers and Duties. Ms. Cannon thinks they have done a really
good job this last year. She brought up a point, and it could be a question for staff,
Item E under Powers and Duties, operation and management policies, and best
practices for things like special events. She would like to see more of the operational
side of things and data and if there needs to be any more advisory in this. Mr. Scrivner
shared that this ties into Item C, discuss priorities for 2023, and things you'd like to
hear and review from staff. Mr. Scrivner shared he doesn't have any concerns with the
high-level responsibilities of the Board. What Mr. Scrivner is looking for moving
forward are what kind of items can we ask of staff.
Mr. Carroll shared he is appreciative of the information staff has provided and he
would like to be more proactive in getting topics on the agenda that he's passionate
about. Mr. Scrivner asked for an example. Mr. Carroll said he believes the City is facing
a major issue around e-bikes, and the City should be ahead of this issue, and they
aren't. Ms. Riker said this is the place for Board members to talk about those issues.
Board continued to discuss some aspects of e-bike issues and the Park's involvement.
Ms. Binnebose asked Ms. Larsen to add Mr. Carroll's passion for a-bikes as an agenda
item for the 2023, general city discussion on e-bikes. Mr. Whittaker shared that this
was a topic he wanted to discuss in their next meeting. Ms. Binnebose asked if the
Board would like to discuss their passion more or move on to the next agenda item of
CIPs. Mr. Wiley stated he would like to know everyone's values and know his fellow
Board members better.
The Board members went around and shared a little bit about themselves and why
they decided to be on the PNUT Board.
Create a written process for annual CIP and budget initiatives prioritization + Formalize 25 mins
standard plan for the annual retreat.
The Board had a paper copy for a written process for the annual CIP prioritization
review. Ms. Hewson thanked the Board member who had already gone into the shared
Google Doc to review it. Ms. Hewson asked the Board if they thought any major
sections are missing. She added that in the version the Board has, since then, she's
added a couple of sections; one around acronyms and the roles of City Council, CDCIP,
and Mayor.That is her first question if any other sections are missing. She stated it
needs to reflect all the PNUT Board member's input and to serve as a gap for new
members on how the ranking process for CIP works and developed over the last few
years. Her main questions are if a subcommittee should be formed or if people would
volunteer to take on different sections. Ms. Riker said staff can help with the roles
section of the City Council, CDCIP, and the Mayor. Ms. Cannon said she is looking for a
simple process to make it easier, especially for new members. She thanked Ms.
Hewson for putting it together, and she doesn't know if it's something they need a
subcommittee for or for the Board to finish out.
Mr. Carroll said he feels CIP has been a big success for the Board. Mr. Carroll said he
would like to build on their success and how to determine how they can make it
better. Ms. Hewson agreed and said they need to define what is the process of
completing this and how to improve on it in the future. Mr. Whittaker shared his
experience on another board he was on.When they had grants to fulfill,which were
on a predictable timeline,they had a subcommittee to deal with it. It made Board
meetings go faster, it was really efficient, and it was a rotating board that people
served on for like a year. Mr. Whittaker recommended a standing committee since CIP
is one of those topics that take up so much of the Board's time. Mr. Millar wanted to
make the Board aware of the 5-year capital plan that will be developed and how it will
do a lot of the monotonous groundwork for the Board. It may require a subcommittee
with staff for developing that plan every five years. He stated the goal of the plan is to
make CIP and other funding application processes easier because they would have
already developed their priorities and timelines. He supports whatever approach the
Board wants, but wanted to make the Board aware. Board continued to discuss
improving the CIP process.
Ms. Hewson expressed that another reason to have a process in place is for new Board
members to understand the CIP ranking process, but also the rationale for why they do
it and how it's done. Ms. Hewson agreed with having a step-by-step process, but it's
only one piece of it. She thinks what it needs is collective head input from the PNUT
Board to flush this out and does it address the gaps that new members felt in the
process. She asked how to engage the PNUT Board members to complete the
document. Ms. Finch asked if newer members could read it through to see if it makes
sense to them and that staff could help fill in the missing pieces. Ms. Riker said it
would be great if the Board could come up with the why of their selection process and
establishing criteria. She shared some criteria she follows when making these kinds of
decisions. Ms. Pehrson said they have the justification part of their survey and that
may be part of the process is to go through each of those comments. Ms. Binnebose
asked if the staff are looking for more established criteria. Ms. Riker said what she
would like to see is a consensus from the entire Board of why they put forth their
suggestions to the Council. Mr. Whittaker agreed. He felt overwhelmed with how long
it took to give a detailed response on top of everything else he was doing. Ms. Riker
said it could take a subcommittee to put together established criteria. Board continued
to discuss how to establish criteria for the CIP ranking process.
Mr. Wiley said when he was going through the ranking process, one of the things he
was concerned with was not having enough information about the projects and
knowing the staff's viewpoint. He said the staff knows more about the projects and he
understands there are certain things he wasn't privy to knowing. If he could have a
better understanding of the projects and their impact, it would help better advise the
staff and create define reasoning. Ms. Riker said another option is for staff could share
how they've ranked, what they've ranked them on, and why.The Board could give
feedback and this could alleviate Board confusion. Mr. Millar said it really is a matter of
time. Staff is coming to the Board not wanting to take up a quarter of every PNUT
meeting for the entire year as soon as they have the information about the CIP
applications. He explained it takes a couple of months for staff to review applications
as they come before they could present their prioritizations to the Board. He thinks the
rationale and the impact does take more time than just the October, November, and
December meetings to discuss. He said he would support the Board if they want to
start it earlier or change the process, but the staff's limitation is on the contingency CIP
applications, which they don't see until October.
Ms. Riker shared that the City is also working on criteria for constituent applications
and all of the CIP applications.They hired a new capital asset manager who is going to
compile all the components from all the different master plans to help determine
should this project be done or not. Ms. Pehrson asked if they could use those criteria.
Ms. Riker stated that Public Lands has its own criteria and they could share those with
the Board. She continued to say that Parks would know more about why a certain park
needs activation in it, how those activation elements are based on proximity to other
parks, and what those needs are. Ms. Riker shared she feels like the process doesn't
have that backbone. Board continued to discuss criteria and determine how to update
the CIP process throughout the year.
Ms. Hewson motioned to keep the CIP prioritization document as is for now to
potentially consider forming a subcommittee if needed, as the year evolves. Ms.
Cannon seconded the motion. Ms. Finch asked who would take ownership of the
document to make sure it was in the right shared Google folder. Ms. Hewson said she
would coordinate with Ms. Binnebose to put it in a central location. Ms. Pehrson said
she would like a calendar or tables that would list when, generally,things happen, and
this is when we need your recommendation. Ms. Hewson agreed. Ms. Binnebose said
she feels like they have the implementation pretty well dialed in and a good system to
replicate. It's now the criteria they need to be focusing on. Ms. Cannon asked if they
could add that as an agenda item as they get toward the next CIP process. Board
continued to discuss the timeframe of the CIP process. Ms. Cannon said the criteria
should be established by August.
Discuss 2023 staff presentations and agenda items. 15 mins
Ms. Riker shared some recurring things on the agenda (some can move):
• January: Board elections
• February: Review full write-up for budget initiatives, Board recommendations
for the annual budget, Open Meetings Law training, GRAMA training
• March: Annual Report, Goal Accomplishment Metrics
• September: Consolidated fee schedule review, Ethics training
• October: Initial CIPS projections discussions, CFS recommendations
• November: Final CIP projection review
• December: Board nominations, Board overview, Initial department priorities
budget
She would like to add Legislative Intents as it's not something that has been brought to
the Board as often. She said every year Council has legislative intents for staff. Council
will ask departments ask them questions and staff has a year to contemplate and
answer them. Two years ago, Council asked Public Lands, what's it going to take to
improve the maintenance of our parks.This year Council asked them about reducing
the use of fertilizer and pesticides.
She also shared ad hoc agendas that can come up randomly throughout the year:
• Budget amendments
• Constructions concepts and design
• Land acquisitions and dispositions
• Master plans
• Operation and management policies
• Donations
The Board suggested building a monthly calendar. Ms. Riker added she would like to
share next month the Mayor's 2023 plan and how it impacts Public Lands.
The Board went around and shared their requests for staff presentations and future
agenda items:
• 501c3 presentation
• Riverside
• Recreation access
• Park Rangers
• Trails Subcommittee
• Glendale Park
• Bond project updates
• Specific events happening in each district
• Current issues
• E-Bikes
• Indigenous plants
• Pesticide use
• CAPRA
Ms. Riker shared that the staff has been working with a consultant and have a
presentation ready for the Board for 501c3. Ms. Riker asked if the Board wants a staff
presentation, and if they could write up their concerns or things Board would like staff
to address, that would be great. She needs as much detail to make sure she gets the
right people there. Ms. Finch shared that Board members are allowed to do
presentations to the Board on their concerns. Ms. Binnebose reminded Mr. Wiley that
if there is one certain topic he would like to address, he could form a subcommittee.
Board rediscussed the action item for subcommittees to complete by the next Board
meeting. Mr. Scrivner requested a quarterly update from staff about the bond
projects. Ms. Riker said a dashboard will be coming out for the bond projects. Board
continued to discuss agenda item request topics. Ms. Riker shared that Public Land has
a newsletter and webpage that has updates for each district. She asked the Board if
they see a district that hasn't been updated recently to let staff know and it will get
updated. Board discussed options for different meeting locations.
9—Confirmation of Next Meeting, Board Comments& Future Agenda Items 8:55 PM
Board subcommittee updates as needed
• Trails Subcommittee
• Communication Subcommittee
• 501c3 Subcommittee
Board comment and question period
Next meeting: February 2, 2023
Request for future agenda items
Ms. Binnebose said she feels they addressed the other agenda items, board comment
and question period, and request for future agenda items, covered.
Ms. Binnebose motioned to adjourn. Mr. Wiley seconded the motion.
10—Adjourn 9:15 PM