5/4/2023 - Meeting Minutes (2) SALT LAKE CITY
HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
City & County Building
451 South State Street, Room 326
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
Thursday, May 4, 2023
A roll is being kept of all who attended the Historic Landmark Commission Meeting. The meeting
was called to order at approximately 5:30 PM. Audio recordings of the Historic Landmark
Commission meetings are retained for a period of time. These minutes are a summary of the
meeting. For complete commentary and presentation of the meeting, please
visit https://www.Voutube.com/c/SLCLiveMeetings.
Present for the field trip were: Chair Babs De Lay, Vice-Chair John Ewanowski, Commissioners
Michael Abrahamson, Michael Vela, Amanda De Lucia, and Carlton Getz.
Present for the Historic Landmark Commission meeting were: Chair Babs De Lay, Vice-Chair
John Ewanowski, Commissioners Michael Abrahamson, Kenton Peters, Michael Vela, Amanda
De Lucia, and Carlton Getz. Commissioner Emoli Kearns was absent from the meeting.
City Staff members present at the meeting were: Deputy Director Michaela Oktay, Planning
Manager Amy Thompson, Senior Planner Lex Traughber, and Administrative Assistant Aubrey
Clark.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 6, 2023 MEETING MINUTES
Commissioner Kenton Peters motioned to approve the minutes. Commissioner Mike Vela
seconded the motion. Commissioners De Lucia, Abrahamson, Vela, Getz, Peters,
Ewanowski, and De Lay voted "aye". The motion passed.
REPORTS OF THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR
The Chair had nothing to report.
The Vice-Chair had nothing to report.
REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR
Planning Manager Amy Thompson reported that proposals have been submitted for two new
Local Historic Districts.
Deputy Director Michaela Oktay reported Mayor Mendenhall initiated a petition for a Text
Amendment regarding violations of the historic preservation overlay, specifically in relation to
demolitions of contributing structures.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Cindy Cromer — Commented on the structure on the corner of 300 S 600 E that is pending
demolition and its contributory status.
WORK SESSIONS
1. Window Requirements for New Construction in Local Historic Districts — In this second
Work Session, the Historic Landmark Commission will continue to consider window
requirements for new construction projects in the city's local historic districts. Planning staff is
seeking direction regarding appropriate type of windows, particularly in terms of materials and
installation, and how we can better clarify requirements in the various documents including
the Zoning ordinance standards and design guidelines that are used to evaluate new
construction project requests. (Staff Contact: Lex Traughber at 801-535-6184 or
lex.traughber@slcgov.com)
Senior Planner Lex Traughber stated that a field trip was conducted prior to tonight's meeting
and 6 Commissioners were present. He reviewed the considerations before the Commission.
• Should vinyl windows be allowed in new construction in a historic district?
• Should vinyl windows be prohibited in new construction?
• Should a hybrid option be allowed in new construction based on location, installation,
and siding materials?
He clarified that when referring to hybrid options the meaning is a mix of materials used on
the same structure and the Commissioners gave direction to pursue a hybrid approach to
vinyl windows for new construction in Historic Districts. He also reviewed the inconsistencies
in the current guidelines. He reviewed examples of good window installations and windows of
varying qualities.
The Commission and Staff discussed the quality, look and cost of vinyl windows, where vinyl
windows may or may not be appropriate, the placement of the window to create a shadow
line, and the life of wood versus vinyl windows.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Text Amendment Related to the H Historic Preservation Overlay District - Mayor Erin
Mendenhall has initiated a petition for a Text Amendment that would generally impact the H
(Historic Preservation Overlay) District which applies to properties within a local historic or
landmark site and also outlines process and standards for local historic designations,
boundary adjustments, and revocation of designation. The purpose of the proposed text
amendments is to make the ordinance easier to use for applicants, property owners, staff, and
the Historic Landmark Commission in its administration, as well as create new processes for
adopting and updating historic resource surveys. The proposed amendments involve multiple
chapters of the zoning ordinance related to the H District and changes would apply citywide.
(Staff contact: Amy Thompson at 801-535-7281 or amy.thompson@slcgov.com) Case
number PLNPCM2023-00123
Planning Manager Amy Thompson reviewed the petition as outlined in the staff report. She
stated that Staff recommends forwarding a positive recommendation to City Council. She
went over the proposed changes and additions.
Staff and the Commission discussed the proposed changes, additions, new processes,
Historic Resource Surveys, and the differences between contributory and non-contributory
structures. They also discussed requirements for a Certificate of Appropriateness and what a
definition of maintenance would be.
PUBLIC HEARING
Cindy Cromer — Wanted to see the issue of stucco on adobe looked into further. She had
concerns about the requirements for standing. She also commented that she would like to
see a difference in process in the designation or decommission of contributory structures.
Staff responded that it is not in the ordinance for City Council to adopt the surveys which is
why they are electing to add it to the proposed ordinance and stated that there will be a robust
public process.
Seeing that no one else wished to speak, Chair De Lay closed the public hearing.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
No Commissioners wished to speak.
MOTION
Commissioner Amanda De Lucia stated, based on the information presented in the
discussion, I move that the Commission recommend the City Council adopt this
proposal.
Commissioner Mike Vela seconded the motion.
Planning Manager Amy Thompson asked for a point of clarification wanting to know if she
should elaborate on the definition of maintenance in the ordinance prior to it moving forward
to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner De Lucia agreed to amend her motion.
Commissioner Amanda De Lucia stated, based on the information presented in the
discussion, I move that the Commission recommend the City Council adopt this
proposal with the clarification of the definition of maintenances.
Commissioner Mike Vela seconded the motion.
Commissioners John Ewanowski, Kenton Peters, Mike Vela, Carlton Getz, Michael
Abrahamson, Amanda De Lucia, and Babs De Lay voted "aye". The motion passed.
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 7:09 PM.
The next regular meeting of the Commission is scheduled for Thursday, May 4, 2023, unless a special meeting is
scheduled prior to that date.
For Historic Landmark Commission agendas, staff reports, and minutes, visit the Planning Division's website at
slc.goy/planning/public-meetings. Staff Reports will be posted the Friday prior to the meeting and minutes will be
posted two days after they are ratified, which usually occurs at the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic
Landmark Commission.
Anyone who is an "adversely affected party"as defined by Utah Code Section 10-9a-103, may appeal a decision of the
Historic Landmark Commission by filing a written appeal with the appeals hearing officer within ten(10) calendar days
following the date on which a record of decision is issued.
The applicant may object to the decision of the Historic Landmark Commission by filing a written appeal with the appeals
hearing officer within thirty(30)calendar days following the date on which a record of decision is issued.