9/29/2021 - Meeting Minutes Racial Equity in Policing Commission Agenda
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Racial Equity in Policing Commission
Salt Lake City Utah
Minutes
Wednesday, September 29, 2021
5:00 p.m.
This meeting is a discussion among Commissioners and select presenters. The public is welcome. Items
scheduled may be moved or discussed during a different portion of the meeting based on circumstances or
availability of speakers.
This meeting will be an electronic meeting pursuant to the Commission’s determination that conducting the
meeting at a physical location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those who may be
present at the anchor location. The Commission Meeting will not have a physical location and all attendees
will connect remotely.
Start Time: 5:03 pm
1. Welcome and Public Meeting Guidelines
Read the determination of the Commissioners to meet electronically because meeting at a
physical location presents a substantial risk to the health and safety of those who may be
present at the anchor location.
Equity Manager, Moana Uluave-Hafoka, welcomed the commission and was later introduced by
Chief Equity Officer, Kaletta Lynch. Moana touched on the importance of the commission for
herself, the community, and the institutions at large, expressed her excitement to get work done
and make change happen.
2. Open Dialogue
Commissioner Powell started off the open dialogue by acknowledging the community’s recent
“togetherness.” He discussed the loss of Aaron Lowe and the effect that it has had on the Black
Community, along with the concerns that the black community faces. Being a person of color,
Commissioner Powell questions what led to that night and feels the loss of his life. With his
constituency being made up largely of black academics and athletes, Commissioner Powell hopes
that justice will be served.
3. Public Comment (limited to 15 minutes)
No public comment because there were no attendees in the meeting
Commissioner McDonald asked if the community had been notified that the Commission was
entering into Phase 2 and if their presence to interact was known.
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Kaletta Lynch informed the Commissioners that the website (with the link and agenda) was still
being used, and a new Equity newsletter will start this month to give notices to the community. In
addition, Chief Equity Officer (Kaletta) and her team will have a timeslot to brief the City
Council and they can continue to advertise in those public meetings as well.
Allison, City Council Staff, acknowledged that the City Council has announced that September
29th would be the first day the Racial Equity in Policing Commission meets and have done so for
the last 4 City Council meetings.
Meetings will also be posted earlier.
4. CHAT- Community Health Access Team
Fire Chief Lieb will discuss the CHAT proposal.
Proposal to fill the gap between EMS and service providers in the community.
CHAT is aiming to get respond to calls with one firefighter and one social worker to specific
types of calls. These calls do not include dangerous scenarios with weapons, or where there is
hostility that could put the social worker in harms way.
The Fire Department (FD) receives approximately 30,000 calls a year and out of those 80% are
medical assessments. 70% of those medical calls are basic life support calls -- not immediately
life threatening. These patients could get better assistance with a social worker present at the site
who gives people the service that an individual may need instead of admitting them to the
emergency room.
Chief Lieb sees this program can make a difference in the way that healthcare is addressed in the
community and how they respond to medical emergencies. He believes that the FD has a role to
play in community health where they are sustainable and progressive, optimistic about the CHAT
program succeeding and bettering lives.
Strengths:
The FD has a good rapport and a good level of trust in the community being the number 1 rated
Salt Lake City service provider. Wanting to take a softer approach towards interaction so that it is
not hostile between an individual and authority.
Challenges:
Chief Lieb doesn’t want firefighters or social workers to be put in danger even though they may
be responding to calls that require them to be put in these situations. He wants to ensure that the
calls social workers are responding to are not the most dangerous calls and fall within the
boundary mentioned before.
Staffing is difficult and it is hard to find social workers even for the fire department. Goal is to
find three social workers, two who will be working in the field and one who will be managing the
team.
Chief understands that there may be overlap with the SLCPD but still believes that it is essential
and there is good cause to have this program also installed within the FD.
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Commissioner Prospero brings up concern about triaging these calls through 911. Worried about
the intensive training that they will need to receive to know when they will have to send PD and
when they will not.
Commissioner Anjewierden had the same concerns as Commissioner Prospero and questioned the
structure of how 911 dispatch services currently with police and fire. Commissioner Anjewierden
also asked about the protocol that goes behind the PD ensuring that spaces where the FD goes
into are safe. Lastly, the commissioner brought up racial equity and asked how the Chief would
address the discrepancies seen in marginalized communities who may not completely trust the FD
because they are a government entity.
Chief Lieb acknowledges that from a safety standpoint there will be overlap. He is hoping that
CHAT calls are dispatched directly from 911 and acknowledges that there is going to be instances
where there is a police team dispatched but many where there isn’t.
There is a community relationship division through the FD which encompasses fire fighter
development, recruitment and outreach for fire fighters, and communication with underserved
communities in Salt Lake which allows them to have better relationships, in general, with the
community.
Assistant Chief mentioned dispatches optimistic attitude towards being able to institute the FD’s
idea of CHAT.
Commissioner Powell asks about the FD ability to staff training positions with POC and how the
FD will move forward in making sustainable progressive change now that racism has been
declared a moral and public health crisis in the city. “Will we be able to roll this out with trainers
of color and will we be able to progressively and sustainably establish this program with the
health departments support?”
Chief Lieb echoes the need for diversity and his attempt to diversify on all fronts in trainers,
social workers, and fire fighters. His goal has been to diversify the FD by 2% every year and they
have met that goal for the last eight years.
5. Policy & Procedure Discussion
Kaletta outlines that the document lays out the protocols, frequencies, and a chair and vice chair
model. An attempt to formalize the commission and ensure it is acting the way it should.
Cindy Lou went through the document explaining:
The organization of the Chair and Vice chair, the election process, and the one-year term.
Orientation for new commissioners
Commission training
Duties of the Chair which include: presiding at the meeting and general direction, development of
the agenda in scheduling and present opportunities for the commission to vote on business
matters. The Chair also serves as a resource for media contacts or selects designees to discuss
commission business items.
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The Vice Chair conducts the duties of the Chair if the Chair is absent. If the Chair resigns, the
Vice Chair will serve until elections are held again.
Equity Manager Role: minutes, noticing, the attendance of the meeting and providing
commissioners the materials for the meeting.
In the search for a new member, commissioners will be able to interview applicants which will
then be passed on to the mayor for sign off. All commissioners are required to fill out a conflict-
of-interest form to abide by the rules and an ethics training will be coming soon.
The Commission is tasked with a report to the Mayor and City Council in writing to share the
commissions’ findings and this process must happen AT LEAST once a year.
Commissioner Johnson questioned how the commission is going forward in recruiting the
fifteenth member.
Kaletta mentioned that the application is opened and will be posted to the city’s social media
platforms along with the different avenues she mentioned at the beginning of the meeting to
Commissioner McDonald. Once applications are collected, they will be presented to the
commission and from there they are able to notify the mayor of their top candidates which will go
to the City Council. Kaletta also acknowledged the digital divide and mentioned that if any
individual is unable to apply online then they can contact the Mayor’s Office and apply on paper
instead of electronically.
Commissioner Eldrige questioned if there is a deadline that needs to be met for the filling of this
15th position and if there are any restrictions on what the commission can do if the seat is unfilled.
Cindy Lou informed the commission that applications are constantly being taken in whether there
is a vacancy and encourages all interested individuals to apply so in a sense there is no deadline.
While the Commission does strive to hit fifteen members there must be at least eight members
present to get anything done, that is the only limitations
Commissioner Anjewierden questions if the policy can be changed once it is adopted later.
Cindy Lou states that policies can be updated they will just need to be discussed by the
commission beforehand.
Commissioner Powell asks how many Commissioners are needed for quorum on a subcommittee
meeting and how they would communicate with the city that they are wanting to meet.
Kaletta states that subcommittee meetings need to be less than a quorum (8 members) and they
can meet as many times as they would like but if they can give the city a week and a half notice
before the meeting when requiring city staff. When city staff is not need, an email about the
meeting is sufficient.
The Chair will need to make sure these different subcommittees happen and that may change
from one chair to another. The Chair and Vice chair would also be in the loop about what occurs
in subcommittees.
Consensus was reached with the policy, and it was adopted. Meetings will occur on the last
Wednesday of every month at 5pm.
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6. Chair and Vice Chair Election
Commissioner Salazar-Hall and McDonald were nominated first
Commissioner McDonald questioned the time constraints that would come with the chair and
vice chair role.
Kaletta mentions that the time commitment is about 5-7 hours for the month on average with no
urgent matters.
Commissioner McDonald asks if the Chair and Vice Chair can meet before and after to discuss
and ensure that they are on the same page.
As the leadership, it is encouraged that they would be doing this as well as working with Moana
on monthly agendas.
Commissioner McDonald acknowledges her connections and presence in the media and offers to
give another member the opportunity to get the exposure of being in the forefront of these issues.
She offers her ability to be a Vice Chair if needed but also knows her time restraints with the
work that she does outside of the commission.
Commissioner Salazar-Hall accepts the nomination and nominates Commissioner Prospero for
Vice Chair.
Role Call Vote for Commissioner Salazar-Hall.
Commissioner Salazar-Hall majority electing her as Chair.
Moving forward with Vice Chair elections, both Commissioner Prospero and McDonald
withdrew their nominations, leaving Commissioner Hawkins as the only nominee for Vice Chair.
Roll Call Vote for Commissioner Hawkins.
Commissioner Hawkins received a majority of the votes electing her as Vice Chair.
7. TENTATIVE Closed Session
The Commission will consider a motion to enter into a Closed Session. A closed meeting
described under Section 52-4-205 may be held for specific purposes including, but not limited to:
a. discussion of the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health
of an individual;
b. strategy sessions to discuss pending or reasonably imminent litigation;
c. discussion regarding deployment of security personnel, devices, or systems; and
d. investigative proceedings regarding allegations of criminal misconduct.
A closed meeting may also be held for attorney-client matters that are privileged pursuant to Utah
Code § 78B-1-137, and for other lawful purposes that satisfy the pertinent requirements of the
Utah Open and Public Meetings Act.
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Meeting adjourned at: 6:25 pm
Minutes approved through consensus: November 3, 2021
MOANA ULUAVE-HAFOKA
SALT LAKE CITY MAYOR’S OFFICE
This document is not intended to serve as a full transcript as additional discussion may have been held;
please refer to the audio or video for entire content pursuant to Utah Code 52-4-203(2)(b). This document
along with the digital recording constitute the official minutes of the Racial Equity in Policing
Commission Regular Meeting on September 29, 2021.