10/16/2023 - Meeting Minutes SALT LAKE CITY
BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Minutes of the October 16, 2023 Meeting
BAC Members Present for this meeting were Alla Chernenko, Greta Sommerfeld, and
Martin Cuma.
BAC Members Electronically Present for this meeting were Ben Trueman, Joshua
Poppel, Laura Lewis, Matthew Morriss, Pat Casey, Rachel Manko, Raymond Reynolds,
and Sarah Johnson.
BAC Members Absent for this meeting were Ashley Lodmell and Max McLeod.
Also present were Joe Taylor, Jon Larsen, and Dave Iltis.
Also present electronically were Chloe Morroni, Heather McLaughlin-Kolb, Jason
Brown, Michelle Barry, Patrick Nelson, Julianne Sabula, Steve Wooldridge, Becka Roolf,
Jordan King, Dede Murray,Amy Lyons,Jesse Stewart, Jesse Kilinger.
The meeting was held both electronically via WebEx and in person and was called to
order at 5:03 p.m. by Martin Cuma. Martin welcomed everyone.
Approval of Minutes
Motion: Martin Cuma moved to approve the minutes of the September 18, 2023
meeting. Alla Chernenko seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Public Comment — Dave Iltis with Cycling Utah said he's been working with
Transportation because there have been many instances of construction projects
blocking sidewalks and bike lanes with no alternatives, no signage, and apparently in
violation for the most part of their permits. Julianne is going to be leading this effort to
get this system changed because something's broken in between permitting, how this
plays out with what the construction companies are doing. Secondly, he's been emailing
Transportation and SLC Streets regarding the many bike lanes where the road gets
repaved, car lanes get restriped,but the bike lanes get ignored and haven't been
restriped. He gave a list of bike lanes he is aware of that have been waiting up to two
years to get striped. The City is doing a terrible job with completing bike lanes at the
same time as car lanes are fixed and he doesn't understand why, he can't get a straight
answer from anyone within the City. It's an annoying problem because bikes are treated
as second class citizens and he's hoping the Committee can ask Streets or
Transportation to come in and find out why this is happening and how to change it. One
piece of good news is that on Gladiola Street from goo South to 2100 South, the bike
lanes have been fixed and now there is a continuous 6.3-mile bike route. Martin said he
would like to bring attention to repainting bike lanes after resurfacing because he thinks
that is important. Alla said 2700 South is a good example as the pavement ends halfway
into the narrow bike lane which makes an extra barrier. Jon said one of the challenges
with new asphalt is the lines will fade faster because there aren't the layers of old paint.
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Streets try to repaint all the lines every year,but this year they got a late start due to the
rain, and the temperature must be at least 5o degrees and rising.When they go to stripe
bike lanes, if there are cars parked in the area, they must go ahead of time and put up no
parking signs. If there are still a few cars, they must have a tow company come in and
move all the cars which adds complexity to this process. Sometimes they will go around
the cars with the intent of coming back and filling the gaps,but they don't always have
the time. In addition, the green paint is special paint requiring special equipment, and
they must work with an outside contractor to have that put down. A conversation is
happening with Streets on how to deal with this in the future but for now, it is slow and
frustrating. Dave said after a year or more, there is no excuse for that, and Streets won't
even respond to inquiries about this. Martin suggested they invite Streets to a meeting
so they can learn about the striping process. Jon said Transportation functions are kind
of scattered around which poses an added challenge for coordination. Martin asked who
was over Transportation and Jon explained the different Departments and Divisions
associated. They are making a lot of efforts to coordinate but there are structural
challenges with having groups spread apart. Alla had a comment related to something
Dave Iltis brought up in a past meeting,which is that she keeps thinking about the
timing of the bicycle lights on 300 West and goo South. He pointed out that you must
push the button every time at that location but not all the lights on 300 West are like
this, some seem to be synched to the traffic signal. She's wondering what it would take
to make synchronized buttons happen more widely along the corridor. Martin said it's
the same thing with the pedestrian buttons and he personally thinks they should. He
said Jon told him the issue is because of the width of the street and sometimes the
timing is for cars,but Martin said he would argue this is still detrimental to the
pedestrians and bicyclists and we should think more about this. Alla said 300 West and
goo South are especially good and are so close to being great if that button didn't have
to be pushed. She also thinks Walmart should put some kind of signage that says please
don't run over people. Jon said they're working on improving the signage and pavement
markings on all the driveways along 300 West. Jon suggested they have a future topic
on signal timing. Ben also noticed on 300 West that there are at least a few
intersections, if you press the button,you get to go ist before the light turns for cars. He
doesn't know if that is consistent at every intersection,but he really appreciates it. Jon
said they should have a conversation about signal timing. Greta said they should also
consider no right turns on red.Alla agreed and said that is done in other places. Dave
said regarding the right on red issue, there are a couple of intersections like goo South
where you absolutely shouldn't have right on red and it makes no sense to allow right on
red there. He also said speed limits in SLC are ridiculously high and gave some
examples. Martin said he thinks they are getting better as speed limits are lowered but
maybe they can discuss this in another meeting, it's not something that will be corrected
in a year or two.
Committee Announcements and Updates — Martin said he has a bit of an issue with
the Parks Division timing when they choose to water the parks next to the bike lanes and
cyclists end up sprayed on their morning commute. He would like to bring someone from
Parks to talk about it in February or March, so they don't forget over the winter. He's
requesting any Committee members to let him know if they have any issues related to this
so they can cover it when Parks comes to their meeting. His other issue is the golf course
maintenance of adjacent sidewalks and byways. In particular,the golf course next to
Foothill which had its bushes growing halfway into the sidewalk. He called them and they
took care of it,which was great,but they should have done this twice a year without anyone
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asking. Martin knows a TAB member who commutes that way and has also complained
about this in the past, so they are aware. BAC should push them to create a process, so they
don't need to be reminded every year to do basic maintenance,which is also something they
will talk to Parks about. He said there are a lot of cars parking on 200 South. The parking
signs have not been changed and the striping doesn't make sense in spots.
City Creek Water Treatment Plan Upgrade
Jesse Stewart&Jason Brown, SLC Public Utilities
Jesse introduced his project team and said he's here to give an update on this upgrade
project, especially how it's going to relate to canyon closures and road patterns to
accommodate construction and to keep everyone safe. The City Creek Treatment Plant
is part of their critical infrastructure for SLC and is one of three water treatment plants
they own and operate; it is a 2-16 million gallon a day water treatment plant.
It is the oldest water right the city has, is really the first water used by the pioneers, and
the plant was built in the 196o's. This is one of the primary water sources for around
35ok people. The plant is about 3.5 miles from the gate entrance and it's time to do
some upgrades in terms of aging infrastructure, improving its resiliency, and bringing it
up to modern standards. He went over the map of the project area. They received a
Federal Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities grant of$36.7 million and
the entire project will cost around $too million. He went over the project schedule with
construction beginning November is'and going through January 2027. There will be a
lot of interruptions to traffic coming through Bonneville Blvd and up the canyon
beginning November ist. Trail access will be maintained but they will be closing the
upper canyon trails. City Creek Canyon Road will be completely closed at the hairpin
turn just below picnic site 16 until January 2027. They will open it to pedestrians and
bicycles on weekends and holidays up to site 16,but closed Monday-Friday due to the
construction traffic. Bonneville shoreline trail will remain open, all other trails will be
closed beyond site 6. There will be no water in the facilities above that. He went over
public engagement to date including a website which is www.keepitpureciiycreek.com.
They will continue with public engagement and if the work is completed early, they will
open early. There is a Gear Up for City Creek event this Saturday and he encouraged
everyone to attend. Ben asked if there were any plans to repave Canyon Road from the
water treatment plant before it reopens, and Jesse said there were not. Ben thought it
would be nice to get a fresh coat of asphalt before it reopens. Jesse said they'll add it to
the list but there is currently no funding for that. Patrick said they've done some
patches but there is no plan to resurface it at this time. Martin asked why the trails are
not closed at the border of the construction zone and Michelle said this is a large
construction project in a small area and they will need additional construction staging
areas for equipment and construction materials. There will also be a lot of construction
traffic and they want to limit interface between anyone and their construction traffic.
Martin asked why they don't open the trail on the weekends too Jesse said if the roads
are open, the trails will also be open. Martin asked if there were any thoughts to keep
the barricades on Bonneville Blvd after the project and they said he should talk to Jon
about that. Dave Iltis said this is one of the most popular cycling and walking routes in
SLC and he thinks the way they've planned this closure for 3 years is really a lapse in
planning judgement. He gets the safety issues,but he thinks they need to go back and
figure out how to make this better and allow morning or evening access before and after
construction. This is one of the few escapes from car traffic within the city. Dave said
Public Utilities was unaware of BAC until he brought it up, so they are lacking in their
public outreach, and he wants to know what they are going to do here to do better.
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Martin said he agrees that they should have been involved and discussed this a year ago.
Jesse agreed and said this is a very well used network for cyclists so it wasn't a decision
made easily but the treatment plant will be one big construction site and the road won't
be passable from that point. Dave asked why they can't move their equipment and
provide a pathway through the construction zone on weekends and holidays. Jesse said
they've gone through their planning process and they're going to have to close the roads
above the turning point. Martin asked if they could make some amendments to their
plan to accommodate this and he offered some suggestions. Michelle said the road
already needs work and with their heavy construction traffic on the road, it's going to get
worse. If they were to allow daily access, they would have to go through and make the
road safe every day and that would be very costly. They are trying to be cost conscious
given the expenses of these projects and have made an agreement with the contractor
that every Friday night they will be sweeping, inspecting the road, and, patching
potholes, and marking the areas with orange cones so it's safe over the weekends and
holidays. Following the completion of this project, they will be putting at least another
fresh layer on top of it to clean up after the construction traffic. Jesse said if there are
opportunities as the project progresses, if there's downtime or other things where they
can, they will open more of the road longer or for different time periods. Martin
encouraged them to open mornings and evenings with a disclaimer to enter at your own
risk. Patrick seconded what everyone has been saying about opening more often. Jesse
said they have a certain amount of time to use the funding or lose it so they will get this
project done as expediently as they can and keep the public and workers as safe as they
can. Lt. Wooldridge commented that if there is an accident, that's going to create more
problems and will further delay this project getting done. This is why they close the
road for a construction zone, unfortunately, that's probably the safest thing for the
public.
Transportation Master Plan
Joe Taylor, SLC Transportation
Joe said there is now a draft plan on the website and the name has been changed to
Connect SLC, Citywide Transportation Plan. It is a 20-year vision for the future of the
roadway network in SLC. It is currently in a comment period after which it will be sent
to the Planning Commission who will hopefully recommend the plan to the City Council.
This plan is rooted in values heard from the community, it has a lot of policy
recommendations, and does not include a list of infrastructure projects. He went
through the plan quickly and encouraged everyone to go through it on their own time
and feel free to contact him with any questions or comments. He went over some of the
findings from community engagement which included values such as equity, health and
safety, reliable options, affordability, and sustainability. This plan works towards
improving safety for all with a vision of zero deaths on SLC roadways and making transit
a competitive and attractive mode of travel in the city. It also looks at healing the east-
west divide, reinvesting in westside neighborhoods, getting private investors to create
walkable districts citywide, and creating complete streets. More information can be
found here: https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-studies/tmp/. Alla asked if SLC
has been talking to all the other folks in the city and maybe at the State level and if they
seem receptive to these values. Joe said internally to the city, they have met with all the
Division Directors, and they recognize that we could be doing better and were on board
and excited about it. Martin said this is a broad-brush kind of description of things and
asked how this will translate into actual actions that will have a real impact on the
streets. Joe said if this plan is adopted, it clarifies their intention to the city
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administration and for Transportation and other divisions to follow that. Martin
brought up the Pedestrian&Bicycle Master Plan wasn't always fulfilled and said it
would be nice to have more concrete things,but he understands that this is a more
broad-brush plan from which other thing will stem and hopefully they will stem in the
right direction. Joe agreed and said the hope is that this is a 20-year plan. Ray asked
how this plan will influence policy making in the future. Joe said it is mostly just laying
out what the Transportation Division intends to do over the next couple of decades.
Martin said this is sort of a binding document for the administration to follow for which
then will stem more detailed plans or other policies that may be related. Ray asked
about the environmental part of this plan and if there is a specific environmental goal.
Joe said a very big thing we can address in Transportation is climate change and air
quality and we considered putting mode shift targets in this plan,but they don't have a
funding mechanism or structure to measure mode shifts. They didn't want to put
something in there that would become obsolete because they don't have a way to report
back on mode shift. Ray gave some suggestions about how they could include
environmental goals and metrics. Joe said the WFRC does a io-year travel survey, and
they would love to have it done more often but it's expensive enough they didn't want to
promise it and not be able to deliver it. Ray asked how much the WFRC plan overlaps
with this plan and Joe said WFRC works with a much larger group, so SLC is generally
more progressive than them because they're dealing with a broader population. Ray
wants to make sure no plan is impeded by another. Sarah wanted to comment on the
targets Ray mentioned, she would recommend internally, they measure what's
happening and show impact so they can say yes,we are making progress. She
encouraged them to track some meaningful metrics. Joe said that's a great comment
and it's something they're thinking a lot about, data collection more broadly. Jon said
UDOT's Travel Wise Team is paying for consultants to do a comprehensive before and
after study for goo South. Dave Iltis asked if this is the final version or if there is
another comment period. Joe said it's a 45-day comment period and this is the last
comment period for the public. Dave asked if they are going to do things or just note
comments because he sees some serious logistical problems with what was presented.
Specifically in terms of the complete streets, the sustainability and meshing, the Climate
2040 plan, and is Engineering going to pay any attention to this or is this just
Transportation planning. He follows this stuff regularly and this is the first time he's
heard about this comment period. Joe said basically nothing is going to change at this
point as they've done two years of outreach. Dave said this is the first time he's heard
there was an actual document to look through. Martin asked what Dave's issue is
because he sees this as an umbrella for the city to look at and Dave said he can't tell him
because he hasn't seen the document. Dave said the organization of the city is
disastrous and Martin said they're aware of deficiencies in communication between
different city departments; BAC is making their voices heard and will keep working on
that. Ray asked that Transportation come to them with specific items to comment on
rather than general comments regarding an entire plan to make sure Transportation is
getting what they need from the Committee. Martin said they would like a checklist of
what they should look at prior to the meeting so they are prepared in the future.
Motion: Martin Cuma motioned to adjourn the meeting; Greta seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:37 p.m.
Meeting Chat
from Ben Trueman to everyone: 5:19 PM
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Last meeting we discussed circulating that bikeway gaps map from Becka
Roolf. Does anyone have that link to circulate? I've been noticing lots of
gaps lately but don't have the link to report them
from Lyons, Amy to everyone: 5:24 PM
@Ben Trueman
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=iagHbCew5hViERgw8v5UdTdI
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from Lyons, Amy to everyone: 6:o6 PM
Citywide Transportation Plan: https://www.slc.gov/transportation/plans-
studies/tmpZ
from Lyons,Amy to everyone: 6:10 PM
joe.taylor(&slcgov.com
from Sabula, Julianne to everyone: 6:21 PM
I will add that the plan, once adopted, will be used to inform updates to City
code, policies, and procedures across departments, in addition to guiding
the work of the Transportation Division.
from Sabula, Julianne to everyone: 6:30 PM
The public can also comment during the adoption process, but to City
Council rather than to the Transportation Division.
from Sarah Johnson to everyone: 6:35 PM
I appreciate your comment, Ray. That guidance would help me as well.
Approved by the Bicycle Advisory Committee 11-20-23.
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