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Minutes Meeting
Citizens’ Compensation Advisory Committee
February 6, 2024
Members Present: Brandon Dew (Chair)
Jana Bake (Vice-Chair)
Jeff Herring
J. Clair Baldwin
Mike Terry
Jeff Worthington
Members Excused: Casey Lund
Staff Present: David Salazar, Compensation Manager
Michael Jenson, Senior Compensation Analyst
Lori Gaitan, Human Resource Program Manager II
Penny Lopez, Human Resources Technician
Guests: Harrison Long, Firefighters’ Local 81 (IAFF)
Zach Jeppson, Firefighters’ Local 81 (IAFF)
A recording of these proceedings is on file and available by request from the
SLC- HR department.
Meeting Open & Welcome, establish quorum :
Chair Brandon Dew called the meeting to order and established a quorum with enough members
present.
Review & adopt January 23, 2024 meeting minutes:
Clair Baldwin motioned to approve the minutes of the meeting held January 23, 2024; Jana Bake
seconded the motion. The minutes were approved by all the other members present.
Public Comment:
The Chair invited interested individuals or group representatives to speak. Harrison Long, speaking
on behalf of the Firefighters (IAFF) Local 81, following up on last meeting ’s discussion on the
methodology used for the firefighters. Harrsion thanked Michael and the committee for their time
and efforts and extended the invitation to share their data they compiled over the last year with the
committee and HR staff.
Review of 2023-24 Firefighter and Police Officer market pay information :
Michael Jenson started by reviewing the prior meeting’s discussion regarding concerns of the
validity of the salary data presented and the methodology used for comparison, especially given
Resolution No. 20 passed by the city council and the intent behind it .
New salary data was pulled from HR’s sources, and research and outreach to specific entities was
done by HR staff to ensure accurate salary data was being used and presented. A few updates were
found to be necessary since the initial gathering of the salary data back in 2023. The presented
salary data is effective as of January 24, 2024. Michael reviewed with the committee the previously
called out discrepancies of salary data as gathered by the Fire Union which was shared with the
committee by Clair Baldwin. Discussion was had by the committee as to why the discrepancies
may exist and ultimately what salary data should be used in their comparison.
After the committee was confident in what salary data should be used, the discussion then focused
on what methodology should be used for comparison. For Salt Lake City Fire related classifications,
HR presented a few options for consideration by the committee to get the discussion started. Those
options were:
• All 18 Agencies for which salary data was gathered
o True Top Rate
o Average Top Rate
o Median Top Rate
• Five L argest Agencies by Full-Time employee count (Fire employees)
o True Top Rate
o Average Top Rate
o Median Top Rate
• Largest Agencies – Those with 90 or more Full -Time employee count (Fire employees)
o True Top Rate
o Average Top Rate
o Median Top Rate
• Largest Agencies – Those with 476 or more Full -Time employee count (All Full -Time
employees)
o True Top Rate
o Average Top Rate
o Median Top Rate
• Largest Population Served – Those that service 100,000 or more
o True Top Rate
o Average Top Rate
o Median Top Rate
It was shared with the committee that David Salazar was able to speak with a staff member from
the City Council to try and fully understand the intent of Resolution No. 20. Without hesitation the
response provided was that the City Council intended for comparison to be the top rate based on
agency size, specifically how many firefighters or police officers they have at their agency.
With this information, the committee was able to determine that their focus would be on the largest
agencies, those with 90 or more full -time employees within Fire. The threshold of 90 was
determined by finding what was the median employment number among the 18 agencies for which
salary data was gathered and seeing that it accounted for roughly half of the agencies.
The committee discussed if they were to focus on one recommendation or whether they were to
provide multiple options for comparison to be considered by the Administration and City Council . A
motion was then made by Clair Baldwin to include in the committee recommendations the three
options regarding the largest agencies, those with 90 or more full -time employees. Those three
options were comparisons against the true top rate, average top rate, and median top rate of that
breakout group. Mike Terry seconded the motion. All other members present approved.
The committee then discussed whether to follow the same methodology for Police Officers as was
determined for Fire related jobs. The committee decided on the need to follow the same
methodology for both groups. Mike Terry motioned to stay consistent with the data for Police. Jeff
Herring seconded the motion. All other members present approved of the motion.
Committee discussion of topics and/or recommendations to be include din the Committee’s
2024 annual report:
Due to technical difficulties, David Salazar was dropped from the meeting, as he was attending
virtually. No substantive discussion was had regarding the draft report to be considered by the
committee. Michael Jenson indicated that the HR staff would distr ibute a draft report between now
and the next meeting for the committee to consider and come prepared to the next meeting to
discuss specific additions or changes they would like to see including their proposed
recommendations.
Unfinished Business – None
The meeting was adjourned at 4:10 p.m.