HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/03/2025 - Meeting Minutes PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRYAND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
Formal Meeting
Thursday,April 3,2025
5:00 p.m.-7:15 p.m.
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APPROVED MINUTES
1. Convening the Meeting 5:00 PM
A. Call to order
- Aaron Wiley
- Melanie Pehrson
- Talula Pontuti
- Brianna Binnebose
- James Alfandre
- Eric McGill
- Meredith Benally
- Dave John
- Ginger Cannon
- Kerri Nakamura
- Steve Bloch
B. Chair Comments 5 mins
Ms. Cannon ran the meeting as Ms. Nakamura was absent. Ms. Cannon thanked all the staff
leadership over the last few months while the department sought a new director. She thanked
Mr. Scrivner for his work on the team looking for a new Director.
2. Approval of Minutes 5:05 PM
- Approve March 6, 2025, meeting minutes 5 mins
Mr. Bloch motioned to approve the March meeting minutes. Ms. Pehrson seconded the motion.
The Board unanimously voted to approve the March meeting minutes.
3. Public Comment 5:10 PM
- Verbal comments are limited to no more than 3 minutes; 15 minutes total. Written
comments are welcome.
Ms. Cannon read a brief disclosure from their Bylaws regarding public comment.
Ms.Anne Cannon said she was here to meet the new District 6 representative,James Alfandre.
Mr.Alfandre apologized for being unable to attend in person but said he was happy to connect.
4. Director's Report 5:25 PM
- Summary of current high-priority department items. -Tyler Murdock/Kim Shelley 5 mins
Ms. Shelley reintroduced herself to the new Public Lands Director and her background. She
shared that she and Mr. Murdock will provide updates for the Director's Report. Ms. Shelley said
that staff had their budget presentation to the Mayor on March 21"for both Public Lands and
Golf, which was well received. She shared with the board that the mayor gave directions for all
departments to have a flat budget, and after presentations,the mayor asked for it to be even
PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRYAND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
flatter. Mr. Wiley asked what a Flat Budget was. Ms.Shelley said that means they can't ask for
more than they did last year. Mr. McGill asked what was meant by making the budget even
flatter. Ms. Shelley said they'll look deeper into their contracts to see their options. Staff is not
currently anticipating cuts to any of their services, but they will keep the Board posted as they
prepare for their presentation to the City Council in May.
Ms. Shelley apologized for the limited notice regarding the Jordan River Trail closures. It was a
decision that was made quickly and evolved rapidly. She said staff would inform the board of
these closures before they hit the news media.This situation was dire, and action needed to be
taken quickly. Mr. Murdock shared his screen to display the Jordan River Trail closure map and
detour. Mr. Murdock said this decision was primarily driven by the public safety concerns in the
Rose Park area, and the Police Department has been pushing for this,which happened on
Monday.The dog park at Cottonwood Park is staying open.The closure begins just after the dog
park, roughly 350 North to 700 North at Riverside Park. Mr. Murdock said it coincides with
several improvements that were planned for the already. Public Land contractors started
working on a Backman Open Space Community project.This is likely to be completed by the end
of summer. One benefit of this project is the contractor will be relocating the Jordan River Trail to
improve sightlines.The staff will also clean up, remove vegetation, and do other work during the
closure. Primarily, the Police Department will continue to lock down this area and focus its efforts
on Riverside Park. Mr.Wiley asked why they didn't go to the library. Mr. Murdock said these were
the two locations where the Police Department had had the most issues. Mr.Wiley asked if they
were planning on extending that out. Mr. Murdock said not currently.The Board and staff
continued to discuss the Jordan River Trail closure. Ms. Cannon asked what the expected trail
closure timeline is. Mr. Murdock said on the public safety closure,they're anticipating three
months, and the staff is communicating three to six months based on the construction timeline
of projects. Mr. McGill said it's worth examining how the city got here so they can identify other
areas and fix these issues before it gets to this point.The Board and staff continued to discuss
the Jordan River Trail closure.
Ms. Shelley said that Rocky Mountain Power(RMP) has begun their regrading project in the
Foothills. Mr. Murdock shared his screen to share photos of the work. Mr. Murdock said staff is
working with RMP, and ultimately, RMP is responsible for all the regrading, restoration, and trail
reconstruction.They have brought on consultants to assist with this. Mr. Murdock said work still
needs to be done. RMP has completed all the regrading and is now working on trail
reconstruction. Mr. Murdock said he knows the Board has requested someone from RMP or
Public Utilities to provide an update, and he thinks they're at a point where that could happen.
Ms. Cannon asked if it's appropriate for the Board to push any complaints from constituents to
the RMP page or particular RMP staff. Mr. Murdock said yes and that Public Utilities ultimately
has the only enforcement component for this work.The Board and staff continued to discuss the
RMP project in the Foothills.
Ms. Shelley said the pickleball courts at Glendale are under construction and should be finished
by the summer of 2025. Ms. Pehrson asked if that's the same timeline for the playground. Mr.
Murdock said no, the pickleball courts will be done before Phase I. Mr. Murdock said they said
late summer/early fall for Phase I opening, but everything is on track.
Ms. Shelley introduced two new staff members: Kyle Andrew, the new Trails& Natural Lands
Operations Manager, and Jana Cunningham,the new Communications Manager.
- Introduce new Communications Manager- Kim Shelley 5 mins
Ms. Larsen said they would introduce Ms. Cunningham tonight, but she couldn't.
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5. Staff Presentations, Updates& Discussions 5:35 PM
A. Donation Policy Discussion & Updates-Tyler Murdock&Ashlyn Larsen 30 mins
Ms. Larsen shared her screen to display the draft donation policy. Ms. Larsen recapped where
the staff is at with the donation policy. She said this version is a little different from the previous
version they shared a few months ago.The biggest changes are to the Plaques and Memorials
section and Tree Donations.After some feedback from the administration, the department
decided to incorporate plaques onto benches. Mr. Murdock said they are also broadening their
tree donation options.The staff is working on finding places to build two memorial tree groves,
which would be dedicated to tree irrigation.Additionally, the staff would like to include a
memorial website associated with those donations.The staff knows donors may not want to
donate trees in those locations and choose a more specific area.The staff is working on
assessing all parks for 2025 and identifying tree locations throughout the City that the staff
knows have irrigation. Mr. Murdock said a key issue they face is that in many of their older parks,
irrigation is not established to plant trees.The staff would like to add these maps and locations
to the donation policy to broaden the locations where people can request and plant trees.
Ms. Cannon said that according to the rough draft donation policy for large donations, the Board
has a role in approving plaques and memorials. She is concerned that this is not listed under
their Power& Duties per City Code for plaques and donations of over$50K. She said the Board
might not have a consensus regarding these donation requests as a Board. Mr. Murdock said he
thinks there'd have to be some ordinance changes to be implemented associated with this as
there are tight restrictions on plaque donations and defining significance, per City Code, and who
determines that. Mr. Murdock thinks that the Board's participation in donations needs to be
updated in the City Code and its bylaws. Mr. Murdock said what he would like to discuss this
evening is the role the Board would like to play in donations.The Board and staff continued to
discuss the draft donation policy. Mr. Murdock said unless the Board wants to see plaques and
memorial requests from staff for donations, the City Code wouldn't need to change, and it is
done on the Department level to determine significance. Ms. Pehrson asked if donation updates
could be included in the monthly packet.The Board and staff continued to discuss the draft
donation policy.
Mr. McGill asked if the Board's approval would be binding, like a Planning Commission. Ms.
Cannon said the City Council could still vote against it, even if they provided a letter.A letter of
support from the Board could give staff extra support when donating to the City Council. Mr.
Bloch agreed with Ms. Cannon that the Board does not have approval authority over donations
and liked the idea of a monthly list of donations. Ms. Cannon thinks it should be this way for
small and large donations. Ms. Cannon thinks it's appropriate for the Board to review large
donations, but staff might not necessarily get their approval in a letter format. Mr. Murdock said
no to small donations, but the staff would like to explore the Board's role in larger donations.
Mr. Murdock highlighted recent large donation requests that have come to staff over the last few
months, such as the International Peace Gardens, Foothills Natural Area, and Curtis Park. He
sees these numbers growing as staff looks to establish more private partnerships for public
spaces for maintenance and care. Mr. Murdock said one of the challenges with these donation
requests is for spaces that do not have existing master plans,which can make it challenging and
subjective for staff to accept donations that perhaps don't align with the existing character and
nature of public spaces. Staff needs to determine how to process these donations in places that
don't have existing master plans. Mr. Murdock continued to summarize the draft policy for large
donations.
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Ms. Binnebose asked who would be responsible for the evaluation and feasibility of a donation
request if it is not aligned with the Reimagine Nature Plan. Mr. Murdock said that's another
reason the staff wants to implement a new policy: to determine responsibility.The staff
recommends that the donor is primarily responsible. Staff can provide the framework for what
would be required and the deliverables they want to see at the end of that conclusion. Ms.
Cannon asked if there's future flexibility in implementing a public parks foundation into this
policy. Mr. Murdock said yes, as this is an internal policy. Mr. McGill asked if this was an internal
document or for the donor; in his eyes, it's not very friendly. He also wondered if donors get the
same tax benefits for their donations. He suggested making a donor-friendly donation policy and
adding a section highlighting why people want to donate to parks. Mr. Murdock said it's meant to
be internal and very process-focused. Mr. Murdock agrees that there needs to be an outside-
facing process, especially for the large donations.
Mr. Bloch shared he's aware of the pause staff have placed on some of the International Peace
Garden donations, and other donations are moving forward. Mr. Murdock said they're trying to
find an avenue to process some donations while the policy is still being created. Ms. Binnebose
asked why the staff had paused some large donation requests but not others. Mr. Murdock said
for the ASANA donation for Curtis Park at Foothill Village, the contractors are on the ground and
ready to build improvements in the park, and if the Department doesn't move forward, it won't
happen. Ultimately, the Mayor needs to approve the donation agreement. Ms. Cannon said she
wants to return the discussion to Mr. Murdock's initial question on how the Board wants to be
involved in this donation process. Mr. McGill said he thinks the Board needs to strengthen its
oversight and advisory role, so he would motion that the Board do, as requested, the letter of
support or approval and have that within its purview for large donations and something
educational for smaller. Ms. Binnebose asked if approval would be unanimous or a majority vote
as there may be some issues with consensus for certain donations. Ms. Pehrson said if it was
unanimous,the Board could do a letter of support. Ms. Cannon said she's hearing a preference
for a vote on a large donation, not just discussion and review. Ms. Cannon said they can write a
letter of support without taking a Board vote. Ms. Binnebose asked if they would want it to say
approval or recommendation. Mr. Bloch said, in theory,the process could be the donor presents
to the Board, the Board votes on whether to write a letter of support and if it's unanimous,the
Board writes a letter of support. Ms. Cannon said,for clarity,that it's not within the Board's
authority to approve the donation.
Mr. Wiley asked if it was the lack of a master plan for the Peace Gardens that was holding up the
donations. Mr. Murdock said the proposals for the Peace Gardens donation example are
significant. They haven't had an expansion of the Peace Gardens for 30-40 years, and close to
90% of their parks don't have individual master plans, so that would apply to any other park. Mr.
Wiley asked if there was a plan for putting master plans together. Mr. Murdock said the
Reimagine Nature Master Plan addresses regional, large, and some community parks.Then,
smaller planning efforts loop in neighborhoods or pocket parks with one guiding document.The
staff requests funding to create master plans, but those aren't always funded.All the regional
parks have their master plan.The Board and staff continued to discuss the draft donation policy.
Ms. Cannon asked for more information regarding donated trees, but the only section did not
address vandalism or funds for continued maintenance.Will the donor replace it or Public
Lands? Mr. Murdock said that's something they can take back to Urban Forestry. Every year,
Urban Forestry is looking for places to replace existing trees. Mr. Murdock thinks this is
something that can be replaced internally. Mr. Bloch asked about master plans and the level of
detail for each master plan. Mr. Murdock said they can get detailed on that for regional or
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neighborhood parks. He noted that the Foothills Master Plan will probably never have the level of
detail compared to a park like the Peace Gardens. Mr. Murdock said the staff would want to
bring requests that are not specific enough in the broad master plan to the Board.
B. Staff Updates. -Ashlyn Larsen 5 mins
Ms. Larsen reminded the board that today was the day to submit OPMA training certificates to
her. She said she would send out another reminder in her meeting recap. Ms. Larsen said she
would email people individually who still owe their OPMA training to her. Ms. Binnebose asked if
there was a way to automate a completion email after completing the training. Ms. Larsen said
it's a state website, but it's feedback they could pass up. Ms. Pehrson suggested that the board
complete their OPMA training during the annual retreat, and those who do not attend the retreat
can complete the training online.
6. Board Discussion 6:35 PM
A. Committee Reporting 10 mins
Foothills Committee
Mr. Bloch said that at the retreat, the Board voted to approve a letter to the Department stating
they should establish a working group for the Foothills. He has been working with staff, and a
letter has been drafted. He invited Board members to look at this letter in the Drive. It does not
need a second vote; the plan is to have Ms. Nakamura sign it at the next meeting. Mr. Murdock
said they've had two meetings with larger stakeholder groups in the Foothills. One of the
priorities this year is to develop a formal management agreement for all the Foothill natural
areas that make up all the different landowners and jurisdictions (Forest Service, State Parks,
Public Lands, Public Utilities, and the University of Utah).All the groups are excited about the
agreement and are working on language right now. Mr. Bloch and Mr. Murdock continued to
provide updates regarding the Foothills Committee and working group.
Jordan River Committee
Ms. Pehrson is working on connecting with staff to talk about some of the events happening on
the Jordan River. Mr. Murdock said Ms. Maponga is not the point person for engagement events
for the Jordan River. Mr. Murdock said there are some upcoming stewardship events. Ms.
Pehrson said it was regarding the five locations with projects. Mr. Murdock said he would follow
up with Ms. Maponga.
Communications Committee
Ms. Binnebose said they took the month off after all their work for the budget prioritization
letter.They are excited to meet Ms. Cunningham to see how they can support communications.
Bylaws Committee
Ms. Cannon said there were no updates from the Bylaws Committee.
Ms. Cannon shared with new Board members that per the Bylaws, each member must serve on
one Committee. Mr. McGill asked about the possibility of creating a Golf update.
SCAAM P
Ms. Cannon said there were no updates, but she will have more information after the survey
closes next month.
Urban Trails Committee
Ms. Binnebose said they did not meet in March.
Ms. Cannon said in February 2024, she wanted to see more involvement with Golf since it's
under Public Lands. She worked with the Golf Director, Mr. Matt Kammeyer,to identify an
PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRYAND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
appropriate scope. She also worked with researchers to define a scope, but what was created
wasn't possible. By code, there is supposed to be a Golf Advisory Committee, but the Mayor
hasn't established that, as there's been a lot of history around the previous Golf Advisory
Committee.There is a role PNUT could play in creating a committee to support Mr. Kammeyer
and his team. She's unsure what the scope looks like, but Ms. Bailey provided some information
in the packet. Mr. McGill shared that he sees and understands all the environmental benefits that
golf courses provide. He's seen other cities find ways to repurpose golf courses. He would love to
see ways for the golf courses to be used to increase diverse use and connectivity with potential
trails.That way, citizens who don't golf can use those spaces. Mr. McGill also suggested an Urban
Forestry Committee or some combo with Golf.The Board and staff continued to discuss a
possible Golf Committee.
B. Board comments and question period & Request for future agenda items 10 mins
Ms. Larsen said the Board has requested a Special Events Permitting update. Mr. Murdock said
Citywide Communications could come and present the new Civic Engagement/Public
Engagement Software.This software would be public facing so you can see the status of any
project happening in the City in one location. Ms. Pehrson asked if that is ready for May. Mr.
Murdock said they have a contractor lined up with possibly a preliminary go-live in June. Ms.
Cannon asked Mr. Murdock if Mr. Millar provides him updates to share with the Board. Mr.
Murdock said there are specific requests; Mr. Millar can provide updates via presentation or
written updates. Mr. Murdock said the Fairmont Park engagement and the Allen Park RFP are
some big updates.The Board and staff discussed how the Department uses contractors.The
Board suggested a high-level flowchart of a project from start to finish.
Mr. Bloch suggested making the written updates more robust and having each Director provide
a monthly written update. Mr. Murdock said they have a Division Director meeting a week after
PNUT and share PNUT requests there. Ms. Cannon said it would be great if it could be a new
practice for each Division to provide its own monthly paragraph update.The Board and staff
continued to discuss written updates.
Mr. Bloch asked how some Federal legislative decisions are going to impact the Department. Mr.
Murdock and Ms. Shelley said no Federal legislative bills impact them, but there are some State
legislative bills, such as transportation and street design. Mr. Murdock said someone from
Transportation could possibly come and present on these impacts.The Board and staff
continued to discuss legislative bills.
Ms. Cannon asked if there needs to be any updates from the new City attorney. Ms. Larsen said
they'd brought the attorney to the retreat as some Board members requested it to better
understand the Board's powers and duties. Mr. Murdock said one thing the attorney brought up
in that meeting was open space acquisition and disposal. He thinks this would be a good topic to
bring as an agenda item.The Board discussed having a field trip and hosting their meetings at
another location. Ms. Binnebose asked if the Department has an internal process for what's
going on with the legislature and how they use that information to make decisions. Mr. McGill
asked about Fleetblock. Ms. Cannon invited Mr.Alfandre and Mr. McGill to review prior agendas
and meetings for some of these other topics.
C. Board Engagement Opportunities/Requests 5 mins
D. Next meeting: May 1, 2025
Ms. Binnebose motioned to adjourn the meeting, and Ms. Pontuti seconded.The Board
unanimously voted to adjourn the meeting.
PARKS,NATURAL LANDS,URBAN FORESTRY AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD of SALT LAKE CITY
7. Adjourn